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<blockquote data-quote="haiiro" data-source="post: 781947" data-attributes="member: 1891">I agree -- there's not a whole lot to work with, but that makes it an interesting challenge.I also agree with your points about the extra skill points being a better fit for the half-elf, and &quot;favored class: any&quot; not fitting the half-orc very well. This was the main reason I went with granting the bonus feat to the half-orc.I like the bonus to Intimidate, and it could certainly be raised to help compensate for dropping the bonus feat (assuming that winds up being the best option, and I'm still not sure it is).As far as providing elements that aren't a feature (cultural or genetic) of either parent race goes, however, I think there is room for this sort of thing. Maximillian's variant half-elf (in this thread: <a href="http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=44644" target="_blank">http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=44644</a>) includes a CHA bonus and favored class: bard, neither of which comes from either parent race -- but both of which serve to make the half-elf an interesting race. They also make sense given the half-elf's ability to blend into either culture, while not really being part of either, etc. I incorporated this idea into my variant half-elf, and I think something similar could be done with the half-orc -- I'm just not sure how to implement it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="haiiro, post: 781947, member: 1891"] I agree -- there's not a whole lot to work with, but that makes it an interesting challenge. I also agree with your points about the extra skill points being a better fit for the half-elf, and "favored class: any" not fitting the half-orc very well. This was the main reason I went with granting the bonus feat to the half-orc. [B][/B] I like the bonus to Intimidate, and it could certainly be raised to help compensate for dropping the bonus feat (assuming that winds up being the best option, and I'm still not sure it is). As far as providing elements that aren't a feature (cultural or genetic) of either parent race goes, however, I think there is room for this sort of thing. Maximillian's variant half-elf (in this thread: [url]http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44644[/url]) includes a CHA bonus and favored class: bard, neither of which comes from either parent race -- but both of which serve to make the half-elf an interesting race. They also make sense given the half-elf's ability to blend into either culture, while not really being part of either, etc. I incorporated this idea into my variant half-elf, and I think something similar could be done with the half-orc -- I'm just not sure how to implement it. [/QUOTE]

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