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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 782164" data-attributes="member: 114">You are reducing their penalties and increasing their benefits. I don't see in what way you consider this to be even *remotely* balanced for a basic race <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.Now if you went for +2 Str and -2 Dex it might be a valid change, but Str is sooooo good. The amazing benefits of darkvision for all dungeon adventuring is phenomenal too (and remember the design theme for 3e? &quot;back to the dungeon&quot;).Frankly, I think the existing PHB half-orc is a bit too good as he is! The only change I'd possibly consider is a +1 intimidate bonus to offset his Cha penalty... if I hadn't already switched Intimidate to be based on Str.Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 782164, member: 114"] You are reducing their penalties and increasing their benefits. I don't see in what way you consider this to be even *remotely* balanced for a basic race :). Now if you went for +2 Str and -2 Dex it might be a valid change, but Str is sooooo good. The amazing benefits of darkvision for all dungeon adventuring is phenomenal too (and remember the design theme for 3e? "back to the dungeon"). Frankly, I think the existing PHB half-orc is a bit too good as he is! The only change I'd possibly consider is a +1 intimidate bonus to offset his Cha penalty... if I hadn't already switched Intimidate to be based on Str. Cheers [/QUOTE]

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