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Message: <blockquote data-quote="atra2" data-source="post: 947663" data-attributes="member: 10914">Perhaps a different mechanic than Reflex save or automatic?Perhaps the original flaw in Deflect Arrows was that it didnot take into consideration the skill of the opponent.IE, there is an equal chance for a monk of a given level (IE,level 2 or higher) to deflect the arcane archer's arrow ofdeath, or Chauncey Commoner's xbow bolt at -4 for DEX 2.In HERO System (AKA Champions) the mechanic is anopposed check involving offensive combat values. (BAB wouldbe the same thing as Hero's OCV for our purposes)If Death Archer's attack roll is a 15, plus another 20 or soin magic/dex/etc. mods for a net result of 35, Deflect Arrowsmight allow the master of Ti Kwon Leep to "attack" an ACof 35, and if he hits, the arrow is deflected. The new feat ofSnatch Arrows would then say something like "if you hit thearrow's [effective] AC by 5 or more (or maybe 10 or more) thenyou've caught it. Beat AC by 10 (or 20) to throw it back.(HERO uses point costs instead of feats, but if you were totranslate their Missle Deflection Mechanic, it'd be 1 feat to getthe Deflect Arrows Equivalent, +1 feat per additional thing youcan do. (a feat to catch, a feat to throw, a feat to catch thingslarger than arrows, or spell effects, etc.))Actually, that might be a nice model. Give monks a bunch offree feats taking them up the deflect arrows chain, such thatwhile a non-monk would consider deflect and snatch/catcharrows, only the monk could afford to eventually deflect/dodgeboulders, melf's acid arrow, etc.Toss in the "attacker's attack roll total is the AC (difficulty class)the monk must hit (match or exceed) with his attack roll(deflect skill roll)" and good to go. I'm nowhere near runninga D&D game anytime soon, but even just replacing the reflexsave with an attack roll check would be nice.Oh, I suppose the monk should get a built-in bonus to thedeflect arrows check, since his BAB suffers compared to fighters.Perhaps add a fraction of his monk level (like half) to theDeflect attack roll?</blockquote>

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