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<blockquote data-quote="devoblue" data-source="post: 906026" data-attributes="member: 11906">1e had the illusionist/thief multiclass, only available to to gnomes.When I was playing Icewind Dale, I had a gnome cleric/thief which I found quite useful and usually no more than 1 level below the fighters.&nbsp; I seem to recall some rule that said that was the only race that could take that combo but I can't find it now.A gnome has always been half a spellcaster, half a thief - the change to Bard just makes sense for me.&nbsp; I think it is a better fit than illusionist which totally ignores the thief side of the race.Still, I dont think the solution is a perfect one, and maybe the problem is that the race has always been broken.&nbsp; Assuming a new player has seen/read LOTR (not too unreasonable an assumption really), then they know what an orc is, what a halfling is, that an elf is not a 2' tall winged creature that is seen with fairies and that dwarves don't hang out in groups of seven (although they are all called grumpy).&nbsp; A gnome is a porcelain statue with a red hat and a pot belly that lives in grandmas garden and once went on holidays, sending her photos from around the country.&nbsp; Now with that to work with it is no wonder that there are so few gnomes from new players, this means there is less thinking about gnomes in general and hence less ideas about what to do with them from all of us.A gnome bard, who likes to drink and sing, has a pot belly, likes to travel, can sneak around and wears a red hat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="devoblue, post: 906026, member: 11906"] 1e had the illusionist/thief multiclass, only available to to gnomes. When I was playing Icewind Dale, I had a gnome cleric/thief which I found quite useful and usually no more than 1 level below the fighters. I seem to recall some rule that said that was the only race that could take that combo but I can't find it now. A gnome has always been half a spellcaster, half a thief - the change to Bard just makes sense for me. I think it is a better fit than illusionist which totally ignores the thief side of the race. Still, I dont think the solution is a perfect one, and maybe the problem is that the race has always been broken. Assuming a new player has seen/read LOTR (not too unreasonable an assumption really), then they know what an orc is, what a halfling is, that an elf is not a 2' tall winged creature that is seen with fairies and that dwarves don't hang out in groups of seven (although they are all called grumpy). A gnome is a porcelain statue with a red hat and a pot belly that lives in grandmas garden and once went on holidays, sending her photos from around the country. Now with that to work with it is no wonder that there are so few gnomes from new players, this means there is less thinking about gnomes in general and hence less ideas about what to do with them from all of us. A gnome bard, who likes to drink and sing, has a pot belly, likes to travel, can sneak around and wears a red hat. [/QUOTE]

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