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<blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 5029668" data-attributes="member: 23977">Sure they are. It's a game we're talking about for one thing, but for another, there are plenty of class abilities, and feats and such that let you gain things that are also race features. In the PHB lowlight vision is one feat that adds a racial ability for instance.&nbsp; A Dragonborn who takes Low Light vision... is no longer a Dragonborn? (None of the dragonborn in the MM have lowlight vision!)Since the MM class/race combos don't have things like feats, you just let the monster have whatever powers are within the right power range, and &quot;assume&quot; it has all the necessary feats and such to do whatever you need it to.So, since there are feats that enable a character to gain Darkvision...You can't just assume that everything in a MM stat block you want is gained because of its race- It could very well be a class feature, or a feat, or a power.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scribble, post: 5029668, member: 23977"] Sure they are. It's a game we're talking about for one thing, but for another, there are plenty of class abilities, and feats and such that let you gain things that are also race features. In the PHB lowlight vision is one feat that adds a racial ability for instance. A Dragonborn who takes Low Light vision... is no longer a Dragonborn? (None of the dragonborn in the MM have lowlight vision!) Since the MM class/race combos don't have things like feats, you just let the monster have whatever powers are within the right power range, and "assume" it has all the necessary feats and such to do whatever you need it to. So, since there are feats that enable a character to gain Darkvision... You can't just assume that everything in a MM stat block you want is gained because of its race- It could very well be a class feature, or a feat, or a power. [/QUOTE]

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