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<blockquote data-quote="Rae ArdGaoth" data-source="post: 3539008" data-attributes="member: 21064"><p>Here are my two major issues with Leadership:</p><p></p><p>A: It allows players to essentially have more than 3 characters.</p><p>B: It's a feat that is clearly better than any other, and a PC with it is almost guaranteed to be better off than one without it.</p><p></p><p>A is moot, since it's already passed, and I'm sure it would pass again.</p><p></p><p>B is more relevant. I think that even with the 25 PB and the 2 level drop, Leadership is a fantastically valuable feat, perhaps too much so. Bront and RA seem to disagree. But compare Leadership to... well, any other feat. I won't go into the details, but just having an extra set of hands is enormously useful.</p><p></p><p>To me, it's a very minor deal, 25 PB or 30 PB. Point cap or not, same thing. (Point cap does complicate the rules a bit, perhaps, as RA pointed out, needlessly so.) I don't honestly think I could vote either way. There's evidence for all sides. The most important thing is to have a fun, fair game.</p><p></p><p>Bront and RA feel like they're getting gypped with Leadership. I think the best ruling is to give the cohort 30 PB and remind the DM and the Players that the DM has absolute control over the cohort if need be. We could give this ruling a year long time limit, and reassess the situation in 12 months, allowing any PCs to change to or from Leadership at the start of the trial and at the end. The difference between 25 and 30 is not mind-blowing or game-shattering, so giving it a trial period isn't dangerous or anything. Does that sound reasonable?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rae ArdGaoth, post: 3539008, member: 21064"] Here are my two major issues with Leadership: A: It allows players to essentially have more than 3 characters. B: It's a feat that is clearly better than any other, and a PC with it is almost guaranteed to be better off than one without it. A is moot, since it's already passed, and I'm sure it would pass again. B is more relevant. I think that even with the 25 PB and the 2 level drop, Leadership is a fantastically valuable feat, perhaps too much so. Bront and RA seem to disagree. But compare Leadership to... well, any other feat. I won't go into the details, but just having an extra set of hands is enormously useful. To me, it's a very minor deal, 25 PB or 30 PB. Point cap or not, same thing. (Point cap does complicate the rules a bit, perhaps, as RA pointed out, needlessly so.) I don't honestly think I could vote either way. There's evidence for all sides. The most important thing is to have a fun, fair game. Bront and RA feel like they're getting gypped with Leadership. I think the best ruling is to give the cohort 30 PB and remind the DM and the Players that the DM has absolute control over the cohort if need be. We could give this ruling a year long time limit, and reassess the situation in 12 months, allowing any PCs to change to or from Leadership at the start of the trial and at the end. The difference between 25 and 30 is not mind-blowing or game-shattering, so giving it a trial period isn't dangerous or anything. Does that sound reasonable? [/QUOTE]
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