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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6117377" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I think Monte had a whole book on dead gods. You might find some ideas there. Fiest's novel 'Darkness at Sethanon' involves a plot to revive dead gods. The Age of Worms adventure path involves a plot to revive a dead god, so you might look there also.</p><p></p><p>Your biggest logical issue I foresee is probably going to be if you take an interest in reviving Lolth, you'll have to probably do it over the dead body of some other god. I can't imagine that the Seldarine are going to be thrilled to have her back. I can't imagine for example Corellon Larethian just standing by and say, "Mortal, you wish to resurrect my greatest and most implacable foe? Yeah, I'm ok with that. Have fun." And she wasn't much into sharing either. So your 'legitimate reason' has to be sufficiently legitimate that the Seldarine is willing to go along with it.</p><p></p><p>As for accomplishing it, I'd think you'd need to check off some pretty significant events:</p><p></p><p>a) You need a get together a large number of sincere lolth believers to assist in your ritual.</p><p>b) You need to obtain a portion of the body of the dead god - a relic or artifact of some sort - that is embued with the power of the god.</p><p>c) You need to perform the ritual in a place of power that is powerful even by the standards of a diety - in the roots of the tree of life, on top the world stone at the heart of the world, on the throne of the gods, on the body of a newly dead rival god of lolth, at the shut gates to the Beyond where the creator left the universe, at the divine pool from when the gods were originally birthed, etc. Alternately, the place of power could be an artifact of divine salient power - something even the gods fear or covet.</p><p>d) To perform the ritual, you need to perform some pretty massive knowledge (religion) and spellcraft checks, and sink a massive amount of XP - probably pooled by simultaneously sacrificing the lives of 1000's of mortals - and perform a Wish. In the aforementioned, 'Darkness at Sethanon' novel, the ritual required sacrificing the lives of every living creature on the planet simultaneously. There is probably a good bet that the one performing the ritual is going to die, possibly to become the body that dead god's spirit takes over and kicks the old tenant out. There is a good bet that many of the worshipers are also planned part of the sacrifice. It's possible that the person performing the ritual doesn't realize this is going to happen. It's even more likely, especially in the case of CE worshippers, that they need to not realize that this is going to happen or they'll rebel.</p><p>e) There might be other sundry complications. Lloth's divine power and portfolio might have been mostly claimed by some other diety. You'll need to either kill that other diety or convince them to return the portfolio (fat chance). Or the portfolio itself might have just evaporated with Lolth's death, meaning that for example, there are fewer spiders, darkness, treachery, and intrigue in the world in her absence. To bring her back to power, you may have to do something that makes room for her portfolio in the unverse - an incredible act of treachery for example. Also, the ritual to restore an evil dead god probably has the [Evil] descriptor. Chances are, whoever performs the deed, even if they don't die, will be consumed by evil and undergo involuntary alignment change. Again, side effects like that might not be clear at the beginning of the process.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6117377, member: 4937"] I think Monte had a whole book on dead gods. You might find some ideas there. Fiest's novel 'Darkness at Sethanon' involves a plot to revive dead gods. The Age of Worms adventure path involves a plot to revive a dead god, so you might look there also. Your biggest logical issue I foresee is probably going to be if you take an interest in reviving Lolth, you'll have to probably do it over the dead body of some other god. I can't imagine that the Seldarine are going to be thrilled to have her back. I can't imagine for example Corellon Larethian just standing by and say, "Mortal, you wish to resurrect my greatest and most implacable foe? Yeah, I'm ok with that. Have fun." And she wasn't much into sharing either. So your 'legitimate reason' has to be sufficiently legitimate that the Seldarine is willing to go along with it. As for accomplishing it, I'd think you'd need to check off some pretty significant events: a) You need a get together a large number of sincere lolth believers to assist in your ritual. b) You need to obtain a portion of the body of the dead god - a relic or artifact of some sort - that is embued with the power of the god. c) You need to perform the ritual in a place of power that is powerful even by the standards of a diety - in the roots of the tree of life, on top the world stone at the heart of the world, on the throne of the gods, on the body of a newly dead rival god of lolth, at the shut gates to the Beyond where the creator left the universe, at the divine pool from when the gods were originally birthed, etc. Alternately, the place of power could be an artifact of divine salient power - something even the gods fear or covet. d) To perform the ritual, you need to perform some pretty massive knowledge (religion) and spellcraft checks, and sink a massive amount of XP - probably pooled by simultaneously sacrificing the lives of 1000's of mortals - and perform a Wish. In the aforementioned, 'Darkness at Sethanon' novel, the ritual required sacrificing the lives of every living creature on the planet simultaneously. There is probably a good bet that the one performing the ritual is going to die, possibly to become the body that dead god's spirit takes over and kicks the old tenant out. There is a good bet that many of the worshipers are also planned part of the sacrifice. It's possible that the person performing the ritual doesn't realize this is going to happen. It's even more likely, especially in the case of CE worshippers, that they need to not realize that this is going to happen or they'll rebel. e) There might be other sundry complications. Lloth's divine power and portfolio might have been mostly claimed by some other diety. You'll need to either kill that other diety or convince them to return the portfolio (fat chance). Or the portfolio itself might have just evaporated with Lolth's death, meaning that for example, there are fewer spiders, darkness, treachery, and intrigue in the world in her absence. To bring her back to power, you may have to do something that makes room for her portfolio in the unverse - an incredible act of treachery for example. Also, the ritual to restore an evil dead god probably has the [Evil] descriptor. Chances are, whoever performs the deed, even if they don't die, will be consumed by evil and undergo involuntary alignment change. Again, side effects like that might not be clear at the beginning of the process. [/QUOTE]
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