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<blockquote data-quote="GreyICE" data-source="post: 6001105" data-attributes="member: 6684526">Long-term fatigue conditions accumulated in battle.&nbsp; I would do something like:Fatigue - For every 2 healing surges you spend in or after battle (round down) you roll an Endurance check (Medium difficulty).&nbsp; Failure means you gain a level of fatigue.&nbsp; Each level of Fatigue reduces your maximum Healing Surge total by 1.&nbsp; Fatigue dissipates at the rate of 1/2 levels per cycle.This should reduce the amount of healing surges used significantly, while hopefully not penalizing the defender too much (as Endurance on the Defender should be significantly higher than everyone else, and also Endurance is a mostly useless skill, so this is a great way to salvage it).&nbsp; Daily - Use of a Daily power incurs one level of Fatigue.&nbsp; Items - Use of an item Daily Power has a 5%/10% chance of expending the item's innate magic.&nbsp; (Roll of a 1 on a D20 has a certain level of symmetry).&nbsp; Expended items retain their bonuses and additional powers, but lose their daily power.&nbsp; (Optional: Expended items may be reforged, possibly as a quest.)You'll find your party shepherding their resources MUCH more carefully, with minimal disruption to the core mechanics.&nbsp; Long-term consequences may build up over several campaign cycles, and I think you'll find your party being a lot more conservative with their efforts.&nbsp; I don't know how their risk/reward evaluation mechanisms are (if they're risk-adverse you may need to tweak the Daily bit in order to let them use Daily powers in the first place, maybe every Daily after the first costs Fatigue?) but if they're reasonable people they should use their powers when they need them, but ONLY when they need them - power and item spam leads to them losing those powers and items in later encounters (pretty much like a standard game).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyICE, post: 6001105, member: 6684526"] Long-term fatigue conditions accumulated in battle. I would do something like: [B]Fatigue -[/B] For every 2 healing surges you spend in or after battle (round down) you roll an Endurance check (Medium difficulty). Failure means you gain a level of fatigue. Each level of Fatigue reduces your maximum Healing Surge total by 1. Fatigue dissipates at the rate of 1/2 levels per cycle. This should reduce the amount of healing surges used significantly, while hopefully not penalizing the defender too much (as Endurance on the Defender should be significantly higher than everyone else, and also Endurance is a mostly useless skill, so this is a great way to salvage it). [B]Daily -[/B] Use of a Daily power incurs one level of Fatigue. [B]Items -[/B] Use of an item Daily Power has a 5%/10% chance of expending the item's innate magic. (Roll of a 1 on a D20 has a certain level of symmetry). Expended items retain their bonuses and additional powers, but lose their daily power. (Optional: Expended items may be reforged, possibly as a quest.) You'll find your party shepherding their resources MUCH more carefully, with minimal disruption to the core mechanics. Long-term consequences may build up over several campaign cycles, and I think you'll find your party being a lot more conservative with their efforts. I don't know how their risk/reward evaluation mechanisms are (if they're risk-adverse you may need to tweak the Daily bit in order to let them use Daily powers in the first place, maybe every Daily after the first costs Fatigue?) but if they're reasonable people they should use their powers when they need them, but ONLY when they need them - power and item spam leads to them losing those powers and items in later encounters (pretty much like a standard game). [/QUOTE]

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