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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BookBarbarian" data-source="post: 7273969" data-attributes="member: 6802553">Not only do I think one can be beautiful with out being charismatic, I think one can be butt ugly and be extremely charismatic. I can think of several fictional and real world examples, but the real world examples are likely to break forum rules on politics. I see charisma as the force of ones personality use to influence others, and resist being influenced in turn.The best argument I see that you have put forth is that they seem to as a culture cause others to pay special attention to them, but I could see that as a reflection of the age and power of said elven culture.Also I would never define dexterity as hyper or jittery. I would in fact say dexterity is the opposite: elegance and grace. Total fluidity and surety of movement. An economy of motion.Curiously some of that is exactly what you described as elven "Charisma" so perhaps our definitions of these attributes are too far separated for us to agree on them.</blockquote>