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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 123059" data-attributes="member: 1134">Spot v hide when you are hidden sure spot v base dc to notice signs.  Check out tracking the dcs aren't based upon someone hide skill even when you use spot to notice the easy to spot tracks.  Spot v hide in this instance lets see hide+1dex-7 size roll of 10=dc4 so if it hiding behind some trees they have a good chance to notice it.  "hiding" behind 100% cover the dc is + infinity, because you just can't spot a creature behind 100% cover without x-ray vision or some other super sense.  They didn't list some great hiding ability because the rules of 100% cover all ready handle that.  Now if you want to disagree on how noticeable the signs are for creatures that burrow fine, make it easy and say it is DC 5 or 10 or something.  Me I think considering it is 10' under ground it will cause maybe just a little more disturbance as a gopher does 6 inches under ground as in virtually none for the gopher and maybe that way unusual bumpy natural ground for the Remhoraz I'd say spot check 5-10 to notice the gorund is bumpy, spot check 25+ for it to be noticeable enough where as a dm I would mention it to you so you would take note of it wilderness lore checks I'd lower the dc to me telling you about it to maybe 15+.</blockquote>