Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
D&D Older Editions
Rich Baker on 4e Realms changes
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 3936431" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>There are about as many rabid haters as there are rabid fans. Both won't like the new edition probably.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, and people who have never seen the Realms ARE affected by the 30 year legacy. If I come into D&D and FR from the point of view of someone who has never played in the Realms before and I buy the FRCS and start to read through it to figure out how to run the Realms, it is daunting. It was daunting for me and I've played D&D for many, many years and played in Realms games before. It's because the books like to stress the grand history the world has and all the NPCs that are important to the world and the power groups and their political workings.</p><p></p><p>If I sit down and read it looking specifically for "What town I should start players in, how they get magic items in the town, where the nearest dungeons are and what kind of adventures they should expect to go on?" I won't find it easily without wading through the other stuff. Which turns people off.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm doing it. I don't consider myself a Realms detractor. I liked the Realms when I played in it. However the thought of running it used to drive me crazy with fear at having to learn all of that stuff in order to run it correctly. My DM who ran us in the Realms knew it all. I could never compete with him and I didn't want to try.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The history is still the same...but it is partially reset. I mean the Time of Troubles still happened. However, when Mystra is dead and so is Cyric and Bhaal and a number of other gods that were involved, I no longer need to KNOW about the Time of Troubles to run FR.</p><p></p><p>I don't need to know that Cyric is bitter at Mystra over the events that happened there and that his followers will go out of their way to make Mystra and her followers miserable.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I see them making large gains in the "Never played FR before and don't know about it", "Never played D&D before", "On the fence about FR", and "Played FR but didn't like a lot of things about it" areas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 3936431, member: 5143"] There are about as many rabid haters as there are rabid fans. Both won't like the new edition probably. Yes, and people who have never seen the Realms ARE affected by the 30 year legacy. If I come into D&D and FR from the point of view of someone who has never played in the Realms before and I buy the FRCS and start to read through it to figure out how to run the Realms, it is daunting. It was daunting for me and I've played D&D for many, many years and played in Realms games before. It's because the books like to stress the grand history the world has and all the NPCs that are important to the world and the power groups and their political workings. If I sit down and read it looking specifically for "What town I should start players in, how they get magic items in the town, where the nearest dungeons are and what kind of adventures they should expect to go on?" I won't find it easily without wading through the other stuff. Which turns people off. I'm doing it. I don't consider myself a Realms detractor. I liked the Realms when I played in it. However the thought of running it used to drive me crazy with fear at having to learn all of that stuff in order to run it correctly. My DM who ran us in the Realms knew it all. I could never compete with him and I didn't want to try. The history is still the same...but it is partially reset. I mean the Time of Troubles still happened. However, when Mystra is dead and so is Cyric and Bhaal and a number of other gods that were involved, I no longer need to KNOW about the Time of Troubles to run FR. I don't need to know that Cyric is bitter at Mystra over the events that happened there and that his followers will go out of their way to make Mystra and her followers miserable. I see them making large gains in the "Never played FR before and don't know about it", "Never played D&D before", "On the fence about FR", and "Played FR but didn't like a lot of things about it" areas. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
D&D Older Editions
Rich Baker on 4e Realms changes
Top