Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
Rich Baker on his 4e Warlord
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 3862299" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>Yeah, we've got that you don't like it. That's not a point.</p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, sans hyperbole, this is a good, specific point. And yes, that does suck. But it does not follow that relying on multiple abilities would mean some abilities would be simply unavailable without the right stat points.</p><p></p><p>Abilities that happen a number of times a day equal to X + STAT BONUS are already common in 3E. There's no reason to expect that the designers will choose to go with a system that gimps characters with low or average stats. You're freaking out based on an assumption that the designers will take the worst of the 3E designs and make them standard, when you've got no real basis to believe that at this time.</p><p></p><p>Now, when Rich Baker says "my level 10 warlord had to sit around and cheer on the guys from the sidelines because he had several bad stats" (and his character has an 8 in one score, no?), then you will have ample reason to freak out. He hasn't said that. Heck, the notion that a character <em>can't</em> do something cool in 4E isn't something that's been suggested in any playtest report to date. Quite the contrary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 3862299, member: 11760"] Yeah, we've got that you don't like it. That's not a point. OK, sans hyperbole, this is a good, specific point. And yes, that does suck. But it does not follow that relying on multiple abilities would mean some abilities would be simply unavailable without the right stat points. Abilities that happen a number of times a day equal to X + STAT BONUS are already common in 3E. There's no reason to expect that the designers will choose to go with a system that gimps characters with low or average stats. You're freaking out based on an assumption that the designers will take the worst of the 3E designs and make them standard, when you've got no real basis to believe that at this time. Now, when Rich Baker says "my level 10 warlord had to sit around and cheer on the guys from the sidelines because he had several bad stats" (and his character has an 8 in one score, no?), then you will have ample reason to freak out. He hasn't said that. Heck, the notion that a character [i]can't[/i] do something cool in 4E isn't something that's been suggested in any playtest report to date. Quite the contrary. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
Rich Baker on his 4e Warlord
Top