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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 3862458" data-attributes="member: 54846"><p>The problem comes, as I demonstrated with the Paladin, when you have an ability that you can't swap out, that sits on your character sheet, that is <em>there</em> as a form of <em>balance</em>, that you get little to no use out of because you don't have a good stat the ability needs.</p><p></p><p>I don't know how to "compare" it anything. But I think it's a <em>waste</em> and a source of frustration to say "Whoo, I leveled up - and what I get this level is useless because I don't have x in my y stat. Yay for me". Or "Because I wanted to actually hit something with my monk, I'm going to get hit because my monk can't wear armor because the designers assumed I'd have a stat in my Wisdom but I need the Str to hit that guy because my BAB sucks". While Ed the Monk is dealing with "To die effective or get by with no kills", Bob the Cleric can put his two good stats in Wis and Str, hit things, wear armor, AND cast spells. </p><p></p><p>Simply saying "Well everyone has to do it" is a cop out, because the above <em>isn't fun</em>, and if everyone has to do it, that means <em>everyone</em> gets to suffer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 3862458, member: 54846"] The problem comes, as I demonstrated with the Paladin, when you have an ability that you can't swap out, that sits on your character sheet, that is [i]there[/i] as a form of [i]balance[/i], that you get little to no use out of because you don't have a good stat the ability needs. I don't know how to "compare" it anything. But I think it's a [i]waste[/i] and a source of frustration to say "Whoo, I leveled up - and what I get this level is useless because I don't have x in my y stat. Yay for me". Or "Because I wanted to actually hit something with my monk, I'm going to get hit because my monk can't wear armor because the designers assumed I'd have a stat in my Wisdom but I need the Str to hit that guy because my BAB sucks". While Ed the Monk is dealing with "To die effective or get by with no kills", Bob the Cleric can put his two good stats in Wis and Str, hit things, wear armor, AND cast spells. Simply saying "Well everyone has to do it" is a cop out, because the above [i]isn't fun[/i], and if everyone has to do it, that means [i]everyone[/i] gets to suffer. [/QUOTE]
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