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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 3975738" data-attributes="member: 1757">I don't agree with this either. 2e was the edition of setting proliferation, not a default setting. In many ways, it seems to me that the role of FR as the &quot;big dog&quot; was diminished by the emphasis on quasi-historical settings (the Castles book, the Glory of the Celts/Romans/Vikings books, Birthright, etc.), the addition of new settings-within-settings (Red Steel, Hollow Earth, Taladas) plus the marquee 2e settings (Spelljammer, Planescape, Ravenloft, Al-Qadim, etc.).Actually, I would like a whole lot of nothing vis-a-vis setting info in 4e. I would vastly prefer some literary examples of archetypes for class roles, only a few example deities (including some new-for-4e versions), and for the planes to go into the DMG with the express note that these are 'default&quot; planes to explain the existence and origins of certain creatures. The &quot;D&amp;D setting&quot; idea doesn't really work for me; even FR and Eberron require massive departures from the core rules to work in 3e (and actually, FR suffers from attempts to integrate it into 3e, IMO) and ideally, the one-book settings proffered by WotC are the best way to introduce fluff.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 3975738, member: 1757"] I don't agree with this either. 2e was the edition of setting [i]proliferation[/i], not a default setting. In many ways, it seems to me that the role of FR as the "big dog" was diminished by the emphasis on quasi-historical settings (the [i]Castles[/i] book, the Glory of the Celts/Romans/Vikings books, Birthright, etc.), the addition of new settings-within-settings (Red Steel, Hollow Earth, Taladas) plus the marquee 2e settings (Spelljammer, Planescape, Ravenloft, Al-Qadim, etc.). Actually, I would like a whole lot of nothing vis-a-vis setting info in 4e. I would vastly prefer some literary examples of archetypes for class roles, only a few example deities (including some new-for-4e versions), and for the planes to go into the DMG with the express note that these are 'default" planes to explain the existence and origins of certain creatures. The "D&D setting" idea doesn't really work for me; even FR and Eberron require massive departures from the core rules to work in 3e (and actually, FR suffers from attempts to integrate it into 3e, IMO) and ideally, the one-book settings proffered by WotC are the best way to introduce fluff. [/QUOTE]

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