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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 3993313" data-attributes="member: 32164"><p>I guess I fail to see the distinction.</p><p></p><p>I question whether you'd make any Realms fans who are unhappy with this change "happy" by saying, "So, there was <strong>just</strong> this shift to magic that stripped all the super-powered wizards of their immortality, and now 100 years have passed. Welcome to the new Realms."</p><p></p><p>I'm saying I don't think they'd be ANY happier. And you'd still be stuck with all kinds of lame stuff in the Realms that reads like it was dreamt up by a muppet on crack. You'd need an extra "cause" to introduce Dragonborn into the setting. You'd need another one to explain why druids are less widespread. Or why the Feywild is now part of the cosmology, or...</p><p></p><p>Unless you're saying they'd be happier BECAUSE you left all the crappy legacy stuff intact. The <em>only</em> thing which I think would make those sorts of fans happy is "there was a shift in the way magic works. Now magic in FR follows the 4e rules. Other than that, the Realms is still the same. So basically, you don't have to buy any new books <em>unless you want to. Please, pretty please, we're begging you - <strong>buy new books...</strong></em>"</p><p></p><p>But that doesn't do anything to make it more accessible to new fans. Which is, as I understand, part of the point of this particular RSE. They're not just making the Realms "Fourth Edition Compatible," but rather they're making the <em>Forgotten Realms</em> more "accessible" both to new gamers and those longtime gamers who dislike its excessive backstory.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 3993313, member: 32164"] I guess I fail to see the distinction. I question whether you'd make any Realms fans who are unhappy with this change "happy" by saying, "So, there was [b]just[/b] this shift to magic that stripped all the super-powered wizards of their immortality, and now 100 years have passed. Welcome to the new Realms." I'm saying I don't think they'd be ANY happier. And you'd still be stuck with all kinds of lame stuff in the Realms that reads like it was dreamt up by a muppet on crack. You'd need an extra "cause" to introduce Dragonborn into the setting. You'd need another one to explain why druids are less widespread. Or why the Feywild is now part of the cosmology, or... Unless you're saying they'd be happier BECAUSE you left all the crappy legacy stuff intact. The [i]only[/i] thing which I think would make those sorts of fans happy is "there was a shift in the way magic works. Now magic in FR follows the 4e rules. Other than that, the Realms is still the same. So basically, you don't have to buy any new books [i]unless you want to. Please, pretty please, we're begging you - [b]buy new books...[/b][/i]" But that doesn't do anything to make it more accessible to new fans. Which is, as I understand, part of the point of this particular RSE. They're not just making the Realms "Fourth Edition Compatible," but rather they're making the [i]Forgotten Realms[/i] more "accessible" both to new gamers and those longtime gamers who dislike its excessive backstory. [/QUOTE]
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