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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8340735" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Well, there's your problem right there. You want to get real information, don't go to the man whose words make his own wealth ride a roller-coaster. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, well, if you're going to put a stake in the ground <em>while admitting</em> your opinion is uneducated, maybe that's the moment you should take the stake <em>out</em> of the ground, hm?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Two things:</p><p></p><p>1) If Musk, Branson, and Bezos turned all their aerospace money toward climate... it wouldn't make a dent. Their spending on this is <em>irrelevant</em> on the scale of that problem. Space X's entire market valuation is something like $35 billion, and its yearly budget much smaller than that. Climate change will cost trillions. </p><p></p><p>2) We already have the technology to address our energy use. Now, the problem is an issue of political will. Musk, Branson, and Bezos can't fix our political will.</p><p></p><p>In addition, climate change is a <em>now</em> problem. Aerospace R&D helps us solve <em>tomorrow</em> problems. In part, past aerospace work (which is now part of modern solar cell and wind turbine materials and design, f'rex) is poised to help us solve the now problem, if we actually put shoulders to the wheel.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, here's the thing - in this, you are arguing against a thing none of us are for. Nobody here has said that these guys, personally, are worth a fetid dingo kidney. We're supporting <em>the work</em> not the men. We support <em>the work</em>, not the dog and pony show of a rich man going into space.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8340735, member: 177"] Well, there's your problem right there. You want to get real information, don't go to the man whose words make his own wealth ride a roller-coaster. Yeah, well, if you're going to put a stake in the ground [I]while admitting[/I] your opinion is uneducated, maybe that's the moment you should take the stake [I]out[/I] of the ground, hm? Two things: 1) If Musk, Branson, and Bezos turned all their aerospace money toward climate... it wouldn't make a dent. Their spending on this is [I]irrelevant[/I] on the scale of that problem. Space X's entire market valuation is something like $35 billion, and its yearly budget much smaller than that. Climate change will cost trillions. 2) We already have the technology to address our energy use. Now, the problem is an issue of political will. Musk, Branson, and Bezos can't fix our political will. In addition, climate change is a [I]now[/I] problem. Aerospace R&D helps us solve [I]tomorrow[/I] problems. In part, past aerospace work (which is now part of modern solar cell and wind turbine materials and design, f'rex) is poised to help us solve the now problem, if we actually put shoulders to the wheel. So, here's the thing - in this, you are arguing against a thing none of us are for. Nobody here has said that these guys, personally, are worth a fetid dingo kidney. We're supporting [I]the work[/I] not the men. We support [I]the work[/I], not the dog and pony show of a rich man going into space. [/QUOTE]
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