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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 7527780" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>This is a fascinating and for me justified interpretation (albeit one I would dispute)! You are reading it as a syllogism, right - </p><p></p><p>All A are B (all dim light is bright light)</p><p>All C are A (all darkness is dim light)</p><p>Therefore all C are also B</p><p></p><p>Yet I think what is being stated is subtly different. Rather than having only A (dim light), B (bright light) and C (darkness), there is also D (mechanically alike to bright light) and E (mechanically alike to dim light). "Mechanically alike" arises from the words "as if". For any creature -</p><p></p><p>All A are E</p><p>Some E are not A</p><p>All B are D</p><p>Some D are not B</p><p></p><p>For a creature with Darkvision -</p><p></p><p>All A are D</p><p>All C are E</p><p></p><p>The reason this is likely to be correct is the principle that for mechanical rules, the favoured interpretation is the one that permits all words to have meaning. So on reading "<em>You can see in dim light within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light, and in darkness as if it were dim light</em>" it is right to ask, why wasn't this written "<em>You can see in dim light and darkness within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light.</em>" There's really no reason for the designer to have been coy here. More importantly, if "is" and "as if" have identical meanings, consider the option "<em>Dim light and darkness <u>is</u> bright light out to a radius of 60 feet around you.</em>" That "is" feels like it should impact on other creatures, right? Henry Human's way is lit by the radiance of my Darkvision.</p><p></p><p>I could speculate that it was simple error. They meant to go on to say "<em>...and being dim light, you see as if were bright light.</em>" That is always possible, but for professional designers with independent editing staff my first reading should prefer to assume no error. Particularly after errata has been issued clarifying the places where error did occur.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 7527780, member: 71699"] This is a fascinating and for me justified interpretation (albeit one I would dispute)! You are reading it as a syllogism, right - All A are B (all dim light is bright light) All C are A (all darkness is dim light) Therefore all C are also B Yet I think what is being stated is subtly different. Rather than having only A (dim light), B (bright light) and C (darkness), there is also D (mechanically alike to bright light) and E (mechanically alike to dim light). "Mechanically alike" arises from the words "as if". For any creature - All A are E Some E are not A All B are D Some D are not B For a creature with Darkvision - All A are D All C are E The reason this is likely to be correct is the principle that for mechanical rules, the favoured interpretation is the one that permits all words to have meaning. So on reading "[I]You can see in dim light within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light, and in darkness as if it were dim light[/I]" it is right to ask, why wasn't this written "[I]You can see in dim light and darkness within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light.[/I]" There's really no reason for the designer to have been coy here. More importantly, if "is" and "as if" have identical meanings, consider the option "[I]Dim light and darkness [U]is[/U] bright light out to a radius of 60 feet around you.[/I]" That "is" feels like it should impact on other creatures, right? Henry Human's way is lit by the radiance of my Darkvision. I could speculate that it was simple error. They meant to go on to say "[I]...and being dim light, you see as if were bright light.[/I]" That is always possible, but for professional designers with independent editing staff my first reading should prefer to assume no error. Particularly after errata has been issued clarifying the places where error did occur. [/QUOTE]
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