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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7538369" data-attributes="member: 177">That's glib, I'm afraid.  I raise the point because in the classic examples (from which we take the use of riddles in our fantasy) the thing that comes next after failing the riddle is... TPK.  If the Fellowship doesn't figure out the riddle at the gates of Moria, the monster in the pond eats them, or the forces of Saruman catch up with them, kill them, and take the Ring - the party hit the riddle as a roadblock to their last hope for progress already.  If they don't get the riddle, they have no further way forward.  Or, even more classical - the Sphinx eats you if you don't get the riddle.  What we get here is that a particular riddle shouldn't be central to the plot in an RPG, like it usually is in a work of fiction.  It is a trope of fiction we can't use as normally presented.</blockquote>