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<blockquote data-quote="MostlyHarmless42" data-source="post: 7539196" data-attributes="member: 6845520">It's sort of already been said about the pros and cons. For myself I tend to save riddles strictly for providing hints or extra information about other challenges, rather than making the riddle itself the challenge. I means that solving the riddle remains useful, but does not bring the game to a screeching halt if the players dont quite get it. In the rare case I'd consider making a riddle the actual challenge, I'd allow rolls to provide hints at the solution, or possibly the solution if it was good enough. That said, I'd either have the players collectively agree that they are pooling knowledge out of character that their characters are all sharing, or require a successful skill check on the part of a character to solve the riddle regardless of which player comes up with the answer. For the same reason I dont require a barbarian player to benchpress a couch for a strength check, I'd not allow the same illiterate barbarian with no skill proficiencies in knowledge and an int ot 8 to be incredibly clever just because his player has a ph.d. in folklore or cryptography. While lucky dice rolls happen, a character's ability scores should matter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MostlyHarmless42, post: 7539196, member: 6845520"] It's sort of already been said about the pros and cons. For myself I tend to save riddles strictly for providing hints or extra information about other challenges, rather than making the riddle itself the challenge. I means that solving the riddle remains useful, but does not bring the game to a screeching halt if the players dont quite get it. In the rare case I'd consider making a riddle the actual challenge, I'd allow rolls to provide hints at the solution, or possibly the solution if it was good enough. That said, I'd either have the players collectively agree that they are pooling knowledge out of character that their characters are all sharing, or require a successful skill check on the part of a character to solve the riddle regardless of which player comes up with the answer. For the same reason I dont require a barbarian player to benchpress a couch for a strength check, I'd not allow the same illiterate barbarian with no skill proficiencies in knowledge and an int ot 8 to be incredibly clever just because his player has a ph.d. in folklore or cryptography. While lucky dice rolls happen, a character's ability scores should matter. [/QUOTE]

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