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<blockquote data-quote="MissGrim" data-source="post: 3931816" data-attributes="member: 57949"><p>This is my first post to this forum, although I've lurked off and on. I've been playing in a new campaign/group for a month (once a week) and while the group is made up of friends and coworkers I've not actually gamed with any of them before (aside from MMORPGs). In the last session we were faced with an adolescent blue dragon and one of the party members made a ride DC check to mount and remain on the dragon's back. I didn't really contest this at all, he was rolling high for each check (a couple of natural 20s) and wasn't trying to do anything I considered impossible. He then stated that he would make a DC check to steer the dragon where he chose, and this is the part that I considered to be far-fetched. There was no riding gear in place (the character couldn't even reach much farther than the heavily scaled base of the neck) and this was no mere animal-intelligence creature; it was an intelligent evil dragon intent on slaughtering the lot of us. His first statement even included the suggestion that he put a dagger in it's shoulder and use that to steer (a tiny dagger... steering a dragon?).</p><p></p><p>This portion of the 3.5 Players Handbook description of riding skill was cited:</p><p></p><p>"You can ride a mount, be it a horse, riding dog, griffon, dragon, or some other kind of creature suited for riding."</p><p></p><p>I'd always taken that to only include dragons (or other oppositely aligned, intelligent monsters) as cooperative, trained mounts, but the others in the group disagreed. Normally I'd have not extended this beyond the game-session discussion (I had pretty much forgotten it by the time I got home), but the other player has since then brought this to many of our common friends and now I'm frequently being met with "so you think -blank- about dragons and riding skill?". Just the other night I sat down next to a friend at a bar and he opened with that! =P</p><p></p><p>So, while I'm not keen on long, drawn-out arguments, and violently opposed to drama, *and* also recognize that in-game the DM's ruling is final, I'm getting a bit tired of being surrounded by this topic at all times merely because I held a different viewpoint. Since most of our common gaming friends have already been discussing this with the other player, I thought I'd finally get around to posting here and see what some other viewpoints might be.</p><p></p><p>I do realize that most of you might indeed think that the other player's take on riding skill is correct... I'm not trying to go online to people I don't know and prove myself right. I just have a hard time arguing my point effectively amonst my friends when their viewpoint has already been swayed by the other party and they're catching me at such inopportune times (like at the bar when I'm tired and intoxicated, heh). I'm simply hoping you guys will offer some alternative points and get me started in the right direction. *grin*</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MissGrim, post: 3931816, member: 57949"] This is my first post to this forum, although I've lurked off and on. I've been playing in a new campaign/group for a month (once a week) and while the group is made up of friends and coworkers I've not actually gamed with any of them before (aside from MMORPGs). In the last session we were faced with an adolescent blue dragon and one of the party members made a ride DC check to mount and remain on the dragon's back. I didn't really contest this at all, he was rolling high for each check (a couple of natural 20s) and wasn't trying to do anything I considered impossible. He then stated that he would make a DC check to steer the dragon where he chose, and this is the part that I considered to be far-fetched. There was no riding gear in place (the character couldn't even reach much farther than the heavily scaled base of the neck) and this was no mere animal-intelligence creature; it was an intelligent evil dragon intent on slaughtering the lot of us. His first statement even included the suggestion that he put a dagger in it's shoulder and use that to steer (a tiny dagger... steering a dragon?). This portion of the 3.5 Players Handbook description of riding skill was cited: "You can ride a mount, be it a horse, riding dog, griffon, dragon, or some other kind of creature suited for riding." I'd always taken that to only include dragons (or other oppositely aligned, intelligent monsters) as cooperative, trained mounts, but the others in the group disagreed. Normally I'd have not extended this beyond the game-session discussion (I had pretty much forgotten it by the time I got home), but the other player has since then brought this to many of our common friends and now I'm frequently being met with "so you think -blank- about dragons and riding skill?". Just the other night I sat down next to a friend at a bar and he opened with that! =P So, while I'm not keen on long, drawn-out arguments, and violently opposed to drama, *and* also recognize that in-game the DM's ruling is final, I'm getting a bit tired of being surrounded by this topic at all times merely because I held a different viewpoint. Since most of our common gaming friends have already been discussing this with the other player, I thought I'd finally get around to posting here and see what some other viewpoints might be. I do realize that most of you might indeed think that the other player's take on riding skill is correct... I'm not trying to go online to people I don't know and prove myself right. I just have a hard time arguing my point effectively amonst my friends when their viewpoint has already been swayed by the other party and they're catching me at such inopportune times (like at the bar when I'm tired and intoxicated, heh). I'm simply hoping you guys will offer some alternative points and get me started in the right direction. *grin* [/QUOTE]
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