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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 2896150" data-attributes="member: 20805">By RAW, you are right.. riders and thier mounts share initiative.This does go counter-intuitive in some cases, but does not overly restrict the rider. As long as you are riding a trained mount and can succeed at the free action Ride check to avoid falling off, you can take whatever non-movement actions you want.- However, a melee Full attack can not happen if the mount moves more than a 5' step..as the only movement shift allowed in the same round is a 5' step.You can full attack with a bow while riding a mount that charges in to attack, altho you will get some hefty penalties to hit. It usually ends up still being a more optimal choice to grab a lance.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> The big loophole in the RAW is riding either uncontrolled or intelligent mounts. I am mildly surprised WOTC has not tackled this one yet as it seems to come up quite alot.Is there a D20 Westerns game that covers this sort of territory?</blockquote>