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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 917995" data-attributes="member: 8439">Re: hmmnot at all, but I'm saying that your DM has good in game and meta game reasons to make this item a little harder to come by, price aside. I have a peeve with magic items that logically just wouldn't get made much - like a character in a former group that was a big ugly fighter with a chain shirt that cast antimagic field. I ask you? A chain shirt? an item only for fighters useful only against magic users? It wasn't even some reasonable background like he had been a gaurd of a wizards school or something, apparently he just went to the magic shop and said &quot;ugh! me want armor for killing magic people!&quot; and they said &quot;yes sir, do you want the butterfly collar?&quot; So that kind of annoyance probably came out stonger than your case deserved.A item based on &quot;remove fear&quot; would be infintily cheaper and get you a plus 4 to your throw... and seriously, at 12th you could both take the iron will feat and bump your wisdom - if you're on an odd on wis, you'd be tripling your throw against fear and doubling for everything else... and you wouldn't have a massivly powerful item that the DM could legitamately make the target of numerous theft attempts by all those sorcerer/rogues who look for easy marks leaving the wizard's academy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Kahuna Burger</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 917995, member: 8439"] [b]Re: hmm[/b] not at all, but I'm saying that your DM has good in game and meta game reasons to make this item a little harder to come by, price aside. I have a peeve with magic items that logically just wouldn't get made much - like a character in a former group that was a big ugly fighter with a chain shirt that cast antimagic field. I ask you? A chain shirt? an item only for fighters useful only against magic users? It wasn't even some reasonable background like he had been a gaurd of a wizards school or something, apparently he just went to the magic shop and said "ugh! me want armor for killing magic people!" and they said "yes sir, do you want the butterfly collar?" So that kind of annoyance probably came out stonger than your case deserved. A item based on "remove fear" would be infintily cheaper and get you a plus 4 to your throw... and seriously, at 12th you could both take the iron will feat and bump your wisdom - if you're on an odd on wis, you'd be tripling your throw against fear and doubling for everything else... and you wouldn't have a massivly powerful item that the DM could legitamately make the target of numerous theft attempts by all those sorcerer/rogues who look for easy marks leaving the wizard's academy. :p Kahuna Burger [/QUOTE]

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