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<blockquote data-quote="Herzog" data-source="post: 5068365" data-attributes="member: 25696">Ok, some generic replies to all statements here:&nbsp;first, I realise starting from the highest ring and building down is cheaper, the reality will probably be I will have to start at the lower end due to financial restrictions <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;Also, I'll probably start out with a seperate ring of wizardry I and wizardry II, only to 'combine' rings once I get the funds, access to Limited Wish, and the Forge Ring Feat. (or ready access to an (N)PC willing to craft such things for me. Which would require additional funds, I expect.).&nbsp;Second, I'm a player, not the DM, but I'm one of the two players in the group in question tasked with keeping an eye on balance. The 1.5 times cost rule is a very generic magic item rule for adding stuff to an existing item. I just wondered whether the rings would fall in that category or not. Of course, as you have shown here, I'm not the only one wondering about that.&nbsp;Third, thank you for pointing out the rings of Wizardry V-IX.Making those myself will be rather far into my future, and having them made might prove an even more difficult endeavor, but at least I know where to look now.&nbsp;One further question: My experience with Epic Items is nonexistent. Are you allowed to use 'Epic Rings' as a non-epic character? (that is, should I be able to get my hands on a ring of Wizardry V, will I be able to use it?)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herzog, post: 5068365, member: 25696"] Ok, some generic replies to all statements here: first, I realise starting from the highest ring and building down is cheaper, the reality will probably be I will have to start at the lower end due to financial restrictions :) Also, I'll probably start out with a seperate ring of wizardry I and wizardry II, only to 'combine' rings once I get the funds, access to Limited Wish, and the Forge Ring Feat. (or ready access to an (N)PC willing to craft such things for me. Which would require additional funds, I expect.). Second, I'm a player, not the DM, but I'm one of the two players in the group in question tasked with keeping an eye on balance. The 1.5 times cost rule is a very generic magic item rule for adding stuff to an existing item. I just wondered whether the rings would fall in that category or not. Of course, as you have shown here, I'm not the only one wondering about that. Third, thank you for pointing out the rings of Wizardry V-IX. Making those myself will be rather far into my future, and having them made might prove an even more difficult endeavor, but at least I know where to look now. One further question: My experience with Epic Items is nonexistent. Are you allowed to use 'Epic Rings' as a non-epic character? (that is, should I be able to get my hands on a ring of Wizardry V, will I be able to use it?) [/QUOTE]

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