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<blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 837687" data-attributes="member: 96"><p>...but you miss the point.</p><p></p><p>If my defenses are good enough to give me my full Dex bonus vs. someone who is incorporeal <em>all</em> of the time, then they are good enough to give me my Dex bonus vs. someone who is incorporeal only <em>some</em> of the time.</p><p></p><p>Dex bonus is not parrying, it's moving out of the way. That's why you lose dodge bonus when you lose your Dex bonus. If you can dodge someone who is always incorporeal, what makes you think that you wouldn't be able to dodge someone who was sometimes incorporeal? Is there some mystical trick to defeating someone's dodging that you can only do if you're swapping between the ethereal and the solid?</p><p></p><p>Throughout all of this, I haven't seen anything that suggests that the loss of dex bonus is due to something other than the invisibility. The one situation I can see it working in - a fighter who can <em>see invisible</em> but does not realize how <em>blink</em> works, for a single strike - is so specific that it is almost certainly not to be used as the basis for any general ruling.</p><p></p><p><em>Blink</em> makes you invisible half the time. Invisible people make sneak attacks. Honestly, I think that's all there is to it.</p><p></p><p>J</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drnuncheon, post: 837687, member: 96"] ...but you miss the point. If my defenses are good enough to give me my full Dex bonus vs. someone who is incorporeal [i]all[/i] of the time, then they are good enough to give me my Dex bonus vs. someone who is incorporeal only [i]some[/i] of the time. Dex bonus is not parrying, it's moving out of the way. That's why you lose dodge bonus when you lose your Dex bonus. If you can dodge someone who is always incorporeal, what makes you think that you wouldn't be able to dodge someone who was sometimes incorporeal? Is there some mystical trick to defeating someone's dodging that you can only do if you're swapping between the ethereal and the solid? Throughout all of this, I haven't seen anything that suggests that the loss of dex bonus is due to something other than the invisibility. The one situation I can see it working in - a fighter who can [i]see invisible[/i] but does not realize how [i]blink[/i] works, for a single strike - is so specific that it is almost certainly not to be used as the basis for any general ruling. [i]Blink[/i] makes you invisible half the time. Invisible people make sneak attacks. Honestly, I think that's all there is to it. J [/QUOTE]
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