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<blockquote data-quote="Murrdox" data-source="post: 837794" data-attributes="member: 10131"><p>While there are some differences between Blink and Invisibility, there are some similarities.  When attempting to defeat Blink, you must take into consideration that Blink has TWO main factors to it.</p><p></p><p>1) You are not visible roughly 50% of the time.  This is Blink's purely visual effect, and it is why the attacker attacks as though he is invisible, and part of the reason why opponents have a miss chance against him.  Defeat this rule and opponent's miss chance drops from 50% to 20%.  Defeat this rule and the attacker loses the benefit of attacking while invisible.  Defeat both and miss chance drops to 0%.</p><p></p><p>2) You are etherial roughly 50% of the time.  This is Blink's purely physical effect, and it is why a blinking attacker misses his opponent 20% of the time.  It is also why certain spells have reduced effects or no effect on him.  It is also part of the reason why opponents have a miss chance against him.  Defeat this rule and opponent's miss chace drops from 50% to 20%.  Defeat both an miss chance drops to 0%.</p><p></p><p>Now, keep in mind these two effects are very different.  If you defeat ONE of these effects of Blink, you defeat PART of the spell.</p><p></p><p>Uncanny Dodge, for example, helps you against invisible attackers, no matter what the nature of their invisibility.  It relies only on visibility, no matter what kind.  It defeats Blink Effect #1.  Since Blink Effect #1 is what allows an attacker to attack as though he was invisible, he no longer gets that benefit while attacking.  However, all the effects for Blink Effect #2 still apply.</p><p></p><p>Blind Fight does NOT defeat #1, because Blind Fight only defeats normal invisibility, not total sensory invisibility, which is what Blink #1 grants.  Blind Fight is thus both a physical ability and a visual ability.  Namely you cannot hear, smell, or feel this invisibility, which is what Blind Fight relies on.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As shown, Uncanny Dodge does help against part of the Blink effect.  Blind Fight does not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with this... I don't understand why the spell allows a weapon that can strike incorporeal creatures to also affect etherial ones, when these two states are fairly distinct from each other... but that's the rule on it.  Perhaps they should add that on to the "Ghost Touch" ability on weapons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Murrdox, post: 837794, member: 10131"] While there are some differences between Blink and Invisibility, there are some similarities. When attempting to defeat Blink, you must take into consideration that Blink has TWO main factors to it. 1) You are not visible roughly 50% of the time. This is Blink's purely visual effect, and it is why the attacker attacks as though he is invisible, and part of the reason why opponents have a miss chance against him. Defeat this rule and opponent's miss chance drops from 50% to 20%. Defeat this rule and the attacker loses the benefit of attacking while invisible. Defeat both and miss chance drops to 0%. 2) You are etherial roughly 50% of the time. This is Blink's purely physical effect, and it is why a blinking attacker misses his opponent 20% of the time. It is also why certain spells have reduced effects or no effect on him. It is also part of the reason why opponents have a miss chance against him. Defeat this rule and opponent's miss chace drops from 50% to 20%. Defeat both an miss chance drops to 0%. Now, keep in mind these two effects are very different. If you defeat ONE of these effects of Blink, you defeat PART of the spell. Uncanny Dodge, for example, helps you against invisible attackers, no matter what the nature of their invisibility. It relies only on visibility, no matter what kind. It defeats Blink Effect #1. Since Blink Effect #1 is what allows an attacker to attack as though he was invisible, he no longer gets that benefit while attacking. However, all the effects for Blink Effect #2 still apply. Blind Fight does NOT defeat #1, because Blind Fight only defeats normal invisibility, not total sensory invisibility, which is what Blink #1 grants. Blind Fight is thus both a physical ability and a visual ability. Namely you cannot hear, smell, or feel this invisibility, which is what Blind Fight relies on. As shown, Uncanny Dodge does help against part of the Blink effect. Blind Fight does not. I agree with this... I don't understand why the spell allows a weapon that can strike incorporeal creatures to also affect etherial ones, when these two states are fairly distinct from each other... but that's the rule on it. Perhaps they should add that on to the "Ghost Touch" ability on weapons. [/QUOTE]
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