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<blockquote data-quote="MarkB" data-source="post: 8808161" data-attributes="member: 40176">I thought the way they handled it was pretty good. He started out by flattering Celebrimbor so that the smith was then effectively showing off to him, and none of his suggestions appeared to be based in actual knowledge - they were just providing a different perspective that let Celebrimbor see another angle while still not questioning the human's lack of any real knowledge.And frankly, if you play up the elven smiths as being so far beyond human knowledge as to make humans utterly irrelevant, you lose your audience, because the whole thing is then occurring on a level for which we have no reference point - the difference between &quot;inhumanly skilled elven craftsman&quot; and &quot;even more inhumanly skilled maiar craftsman&quot; becomes imperceptible from our viewpoint, and leaves no reference by which we can discern whether one or another suggestion or deception is good or bad.Also, since the entire audience is human, playing the &quot;elves are just better&quot; card too hard just makes them even less relatable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MarkB, post: 8808161, member: 40176"] I thought the way they handled it was pretty good. He started out by flattering Celebrimbor so that the smith was then effectively showing off to him, and none of his suggestions appeared to be based in actual knowledge - they were just providing a different perspective that let Celebrimbor see another angle while still not questioning the human's lack of any real knowledge. And frankly, if you play up the elven smiths as being so far beyond human knowledge as to make humans utterly irrelevant, you lose your audience, because the whole thing is then occurring on a level for which we have no reference point - the difference between "inhumanly skilled elven craftsman" and "even more inhumanly skilled maiar craftsman" becomes imperceptible from our viewpoint, and leaves no reference by which we can discern whether one or another suggestion or deception is good or bad. Also, since the entire audience is human, playing the "elves are just better" card too hard just makes them even less relatable. [/QUOTE]

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