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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 8809204" data-attributes="member: 59816"><p>Oh, I agree, but I was willing to let that one slide, if only to play along. I found the alloy part much, much harder.</p><p></p><p>That's an interesting aside, IMO. When watching live theatre, part of the experience is to "play along". You imagine a lot of stuff (in particular with sets and scene changes) yourself, and admire how cleverly they make them work in interesting (but not usually "realistic" ways). This same sort of thing exists in our RPGs, when people point out that "realism" is not an important factor to them (though "immersion" usually is).</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, we're not generally expected to "play along" with movies an TV (or at least not as much - I would argue that people who are willing to do it, usually enjoy some shows more than those who aren't. Maybe that's part of the case here.</p><p></p><p>I liked the show overall. I was excited to watch each episode as they dropped. It was a visual feast. I liked a lot of the characters. I grew to like others by the end. </p><p></p><p>However, I don't think it was very good Tolkien. I don't particularly care, as long as it winds up good fantasy, but I will back any Tolkien fan who wants to complain about it on that level. I thought a few things were very dumb - in particular the idea that Galadriel would try to swim across the ocean; the Calvary charge across a vast land; the thousands-year-old smith not thinking about basic smithing ideas.</p><p></p><p>That's fine. There's usually a few dumb things in most shows. I can "play along". </p><p></p><p>But they deserve to be constructively criticized for it. They could have made the show that much better. They still could. It's only the first season. A lot of shows get better as they go. (And some fall flat on their faces).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 8809204, member: 59816"] Oh, I agree, but I was willing to let that one slide, if only to play along. I found the alloy part much, much harder. That's an interesting aside, IMO. When watching live theatre, part of the experience is to "play along". You imagine a lot of stuff (in particular with sets and scene changes) yourself, and admire how cleverly they make them work in interesting (but not usually "realistic" ways). This same sort of thing exists in our RPGs, when people point out that "realism" is not an important factor to them (though "immersion" usually is). On the other hand, we're not generally expected to "play along" with movies an TV (or at least not as much - I would argue that people who are willing to do it, usually enjoy some shows more than those who aren't. Maybe that's part of the case here. I liked the show overall. I was excited to watch each episode as they dropped. It was a visual feast. I liked a lot of the characters. I grew to like others by the end. However, I don't think it was very good Tolkien. I don't particularly care, as long as it winds up good fantasy, but I will back any Tolkien fan who wants to complain about it on that level. I thought a few things were very dumb - in particular the idea that Galadriel would try to swim across the ocean; the Calvary charge across a vast land; the thousands-year-old smith not thinking about basic smithing ideas. That's fine. There's usually a few dumb things in most shows. I can "play along". But they deserve to be constructively criticized for it. They could have made the show that much better. They still could. It's only the first season. A lot of shows get better as they go. (And some fall flat on their faces). [/QUOTE]
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