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<blockquote data-quote="OB1" data-source="post: 8814459" data-attributes="member: 6796241"><p>[USER=79926]@ART![/USER] re: Sauron being in the ocean when Galadriel jumped ship, I think it's certainly reasonable that he was aware of who she was as she was hunting him for a few millennia. It wouldn't be inconceivable that he was aware that she was going to be shipped to Valinor (via his spies) and that she might not be able to give up her obsession with him and so set himself at sea in order to be able to rescue her. In this case, Galadriel's rejection of the providence of Eru (that she go back to Valinor) is the specific inciting event that will eventually allow the Rings to be created and all of the Evil that results from it. Of course, it all leads back to Sauron being destroyed at the end of LotR, but the point is that the Elves were supposed to have left middle earth long ago (or really, never have gone in the first place). </p><p></p><p>As for Elendil then finding the two of them, I'm fine with that being a first act coincidence that sets much of the rest of the story in motion. Numenor patrolled the seas, and while it could have been another Numenorian to find them, having it be Elendil tightens the story beats. It could have been another Numenorian who found her, and then she could have met Elendil in Numenor, but this early in the story there is no good reason not to have it be Elendil right off the bat. Just because we as the audience knows the importance of who he will become doesn't mean that Galadiel does.</p><p></p><p>Finally, we had established in the first episode that Galadriel specifically (and her company as well) could climb sheer ice cliffs and trek across frozen wasteland for years searching for Sauron. Don't know how that tracks with Tolkien's elves, but the show elves are clearly established as being able to survive extreme environments for long periods of time. That Galadriel believed she could survive swimming an ocean is a bit of worldbuilding here (as was Elrond's contest with Durin).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OB1, post: 8814459, member: 6796241"] [USER=79926]@ART![/USER] re: Sauron being in the ocean when Galadriel jumped ship, I think it's certainly reasonable that he was aware of who she was as she was hunting him for a few millennia. It wouldn't be inconceivable that he was aware that she was going to be shipped to Valinor (via his spies) and that she might not be able to give up her obsession with him and so set himself at sea in order to be able to rescue her. In this case, Galadriel's rejection of the providence of Eru (that she go back to Valinor) is the specific inciting event that will eventually allow the Rings to be created and all of the Evil that results from it. Of course, it all leads back to Sauron being destroyed at the end of LotR, but the point is that the Elves were supposed to have left middle earth long ago (or really, never have gone in the first place). As for Elendil then finding the two of them, I'm fine with that being a first act coincidence that sets much of the rest of the story in motion. Numenor patrolled the seas, and while it could have been another Numenorian to find them, having it be Elendil tightens the story beats. It could have been another Numenorian who found her, and then she could have met Elendil in Numenor, but this early in the story there is no good reason not to have it be Elendil right off the bat. Just because we as the audience knows the importance of who he will become doesn't mean that Galadiel does. Finally, we had established in the first episode that Galadriel specifically (and her company as well) could climb sheer ice cliffs and trek across frozen wasteland for years searching for Sauron. Don't know how that tracks with Tolkien's elves, but the show elves are clearly established as being able to survive extreme environments for long periods of time. That Galadriel believed she could survive swimming an ocean is a bit of worldbuilding here (as was Elrond's contest with Durin). [/QUOTE]
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