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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 9451563" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>In the "betrayal" scene, Sauron (and the enemy together) had just been cast down. He's at his weakest, they are fleeing.</p><p></p><p>And an elf stabs him with a magical artifact (the crown). </p><p></p><p>This doesn't defeat Sauron - it just wounds him seriously (kills the body Sauron is in, not the spirit), and it takes him many years to recover.</p><p></p><p>He's shape changing, but not "I can change my shape at will", but rather "I can change my shape with effort". And throughout this story he's been next to death - one time after the fall of the great enemy, the other time barely recovered from being slain. Despite this he's stronger than elves, better at crafting, etc, and is able to hide from their supernatural senses.</p><p></p><p>This 2nd season story seems to be about gathering power; the rings aren't just trinkets of corruption and manipulation, they actually matter to Sauron's own plans to regain power. With the corrupted humans, dwarves and elves, together with the one ring, he should be more powerful - and we have the limits of his power in LotR shown (within this cinematic universe). So he has to be substantially weaker for that to make sense.</p><p></p><p>The seduction of the elves by the rings of power was well done. One managed to resist; the rest made excuses (with a solid foundation!). The sea beast nudging the boat, and the crafter falling in love with the artistry. The rings falling from the king's hand and landing at Galadriel's feet. All hark back to how the one ring would manipulate chance and fate and tempt people with its power.</p><p></p><p>It even makes the turning down the temptation of the one ring better - she remembers failing at this task before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 9451563, member: 72555"] In the "betrayal" scene, Sauron (and the enemy together) had just been cast down. He's at his weakest, they are fleeing. And an elf stabs him with a magical artifact (the crown). This doesn't defeat Sauron - it just wounds him seriously (kills the body Sauron is in, not the spirit), and it takes him many years to recover. He's shape changing, but not "I can change my shape at will", but rather "I can change my shape with effort". And throughout this story he's been next to death - one time after the fall of the great enemy, the other time barely recovered from being slain. Despite this he's stronger than elves, better at crafting, etc, and is able to hide from their supernatural senses. This 2nd season story seems to be about gathering power; the rings aren't just trinkets of corruption and manipulation, they actually matter to Sauron's own plans to regain power. With the corrupted humans, dwarves and elves, together with the one ring, he should be more powerful - and we have the limits of his power in LotR shown (within this cinematic universe). So he has to be substantially weaker for that to make sense. The seduction of the elves by the rings of power was well done. One managed to resist; the rest made excuses (with a solid foundation!). The sea beast nudging the boat, and the crafter falling in love with the artistry. The rings falling from the king's hand and landing at Galadriel's feet. All hark back to how the one ring would manipulate chance and fate and tempt people with its power. It even makes the turning down the temptation of the one ring better - she remembers failing at this task before. [/QUOTE]
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