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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 9465837" data-attributes="member: 6879661">So these can be split into three main categories.1. Timing issues. With the mythology spread over tens of thousands of years this was always going to need to be altered to work for a coherent story. I hope you can see that. What difference does it make if an event happened a few thousand years later when nothing relevant happens in the intervening period? I cannot see any benefit that slavishly sticking to precise timelines gives to the quality of a story? It’s lorebearding for the sake of lorebearding.2. Character issues. You don’t like the stories they are telling because they don’t fit your image of those characters. That’s fine. But when we’re talking about characters living for thousands of years then is space for them to be more than just one thing. Tolkien’s notes and short stories are just that. Snapshots. They don’t attempt to fill a characters entire arc. The writers should be allowed to fill some gaps. Galadriel spending some time kicking ass in no way invalidates her later or earlier appearance. It’s highly remeniscint of the outrage when Arwen was given a more active role in the films. Nothing wrong with strong women.3. Breaking the Rules. You say that Gil-Galad can’t order Galadriel to Valinor. Galadriel has to have clear magical powers. Numenoreans can’t be superstitious. Elves don’t need rings of power. Elves don’t need Mithral. The fact is these ‘rules’ are extrapolations and assumptions based again on notes, short stories or outlines that you and others have made. They’re not actual rules of the world in a logical sense. You have no idea the influence Gil-Galad could exert over Galadriel in those specific circumstances because you don’t have access to everything that has occurred in their relationship. Even where there are logical rules a big part of fiction is about the exceptions.My biggest issue with your list though is that none of those things would make the story better. Not of those things would add greater drama, tension, narrative or satisfaction. What benefit to the story does having the rings being forged over 100 years? Or having Elendil looking decrepit? The items are useless factoids that add no value in and of themselves but are elevated to the level of dogma. As if every word Tolkein put to paper came straight from the lips of God and as if Tolkein never changed his mind.I’m more than happy to assume that while a lot of Tolkien’s notes and scribbling make for fun myths they make for lousy stories and of course some artistic license has to be taken as it does with every story and as it had to with the film adaptions.That said if you want to focus on the fact that your 13 points aren’t shoehorned into the plot then you’re only hurting yourself. Sometimes people have to give themselves permission to enjoy something for what it is.</blockquote>

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