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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9466735" data-attributes="member: 23751">I mean, other than when she forced her own way against Feanor(the only elf to rival her in power) the high king of the elves and refused to take the oath or join the kinslaying.  Or that time she forced her own way against the Valar and left Aman to go after Feanor. Or that time she forced her own way and told off the Valar who refused to let her return to Aman. Or that time she forced her own way by refusing(three times) to give Feanor a lock of her hair when he wanted it. Or that time that she forced her own way in the second age, leaving Gil-Galad(who she basically made king) and established her own dominion.Then there's also her pride, which was noted time and time and time again.  There's no way in hell that she would have left middle earth, even if she could(but she couldn't), at the order of the king.What is clear is that from your comment about Numenoreans being superstitious, Numenoreans declining civilization, and Galadriel's exile being unclear, is that you either haven't read the books or have forgotten a whole lot.Galadriel's ban was lifted by the Valar AFTER her acts during Lord of the Rings.  It was firmly, and very, very clearly, in place when the order to return was given.  She could not have obeyed, even if she wanted to.The decline was purely moral.  Their majesty and technology did not decline at all.  Depicting them as petty, normal men is wrong and against everything that the Numenoreans were.No there aren't plausible explanations(If you know the lore well).  There are only weak justifications(at least those the show has given) that fail the plausibility test.</blockquote>

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