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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 9478483" data-attributes="member: 4303"><p>I wish that the "Show don't tell" mantra had been extended further.</p><p></p><p>The reason that I brought up the Miltonic Satan, is that I think that it is very <em>hard</em> to distill a character with real, evil gravitas into an - at least semi-relatable - protagonist without diminishing the mythic status. It is an ambitious project.</p><p></p><p>Milton can execute it because of his perspective: an unconventional personal theology, a deeply poetic and insightful mind, and an encyclopedic knowledge of classical, Judeo-Christian and Gnostic literature; as well as his deeply-held anti-monarchist and disestablishment beliefs. The resulting character demonstrates great pathos but his <em>evil</em> is never really in question. Satan does not emote, or succumb to sentimentality.</p><p></p><p>I guess I'm saying if I were to try to put Sauron on the screen, and elicit a sympathetic response from the audience, Milton's Satan might be a port of call for inspiration. As might <em>American Psycho</em>, for that matter.</p><p></p><p>When we examine the various iterations of Sauron in Tolkien's writings, we have:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fallen angelic spirit at the beginning of time</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The steadfast lieutenant who maintains Melkor's dominion during his captivity</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The cruel, shapeshifting lord of werewolves who beguiles and deceives with illusions</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The deceiver of the Elves and the forger of the rings</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The warlord who attempts to subdue Middle-Earth</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The corruptor who instigates Numenor's destruction</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A spirit, temporarily banished, who strives to reform</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A necromancer who corrupts the greenwood</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The final iteration, in LotR, who combines many of the previous elements to one degree or another</li> </ul><p>But at no stage is he personalized, with relatable characteristics; he is always "othered," because of his mythic status - literally, <em>The Enemy</em>. His "role" is always archetypal; as are, arguably, most of Tolkien's other characters.</p><p></p><p>To invert that, and cast him in the role of protagonist, without jeopardizing the Sauron-<em>gestalt</em> is a very ambitious undertaking.</p><p></p><p>I reject the notion that "modern audiences" require a morally grey character; I think better of them than that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchrave II, post: 9478483, member: 4303"] I wish that the "Show don't tell" mantra had been extended further. The reason that I brought up the Miltonic Satan, is that I think that it is very [I]hard[/I] to distill a character with real, evil gravitas into an - at least semi-relatable - protagonist without diminishing the mythic status. It is an ambitious project. Milton can execute it because of his perspective: an unconventional personal theology, a deeply poetic and insightful mind, and an encyclopedic knowledge of classical, Judeo-Christian and Gnostic literature; as well as his deeply-held anti-monarchist and disestablishment beliefs. The resulting character demonstrates great pathos but his [I]evil[/I] is never really in question. Satan does not emote, or succumb to sentimentality. I guess I'm saying if I were to try to put Sauron on the screen, and elicit a sympathetic response from the audience, Milton's Satan might be a port of call for inspiration. As might [I]American Psycho[/I], for that matter. When we examine the various iterations of Sauron in Tolkien's writings, we have: [LIST] [*]The fallen angelic spirit at the beginning of time [*]The steadfast lieutenant who maintains Melkor's dominion during his captivity [*]The cruel, shapeshifting lord of werewolves who beguiles and deceives with illusions [*]The deceiver of the Elves and the forger of the rings [*]The warlord who attempts to subdue Middle-Earth [*]The corruptor who instigates Numenor's destruction [*]A spirit, temporarily banished, who strives to reform [*]A necromancer who corrupts the greenwood [*]The final iteration, in LotR, who combines many of the previous elements to one degree or another [/LIST] But at no stage is he personalized, with relatable characteristics; he is always "othered," because of his mythic status - literally, [I]The Enemy[/I]. His "role" is always archetypal; as are, arguably, most of Tolkien's other characters. To invert that, and cast him in the role of protagonist, without jeopardizing the Sauron-[I]gestalt[/I] is a very ambitious undertaking. I reject the notion that "modern audiences" require a morally grey character; I think better of them than that. [/QUOTE]
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