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<blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 1460726" data-attributes="member: 7394"><p>Yeah, Final Frontier was certainly not the best Trek movie. The plot was full of holes, the galaxy was too small, and it just didn't quite stay true to Trek. In fact I have to wonder how Rodenberry even gave the greenlight to that script (I think he was still alive at that time). Despite its numerous obvious shortcomings, there are some things about that movie I do like.</p><p> </p><p>* Action/adventure. For me Star Trek has started as a smarter action adventure series. Kirk was the captain, yet he was always taking the enemy to the matt and getting the girl at the end. Of all the Trek movies, I think Final Frontier had the most physical action. This thing was full of brawls, and they were fun ones, with real stunt men rather than the ones that passed for real in the original series.</p><p> </p><p>* The Kirk, Bones, Spock moments. It starts with the three old friends camping and it ends the same way. It reaffirms that they are not simply ship mates, but they are family.</p><p> </p><p>* Sybok. I liked the guy. True, we never heard of him before that movie, but he was interesting. A full-blooded vulcan and the half-brother of Spock who had turned his back on logic? It was an interesting premise to work with.</p><p> </p><p>* The format of the movie. This wasn't a heavy movie by any stretch of the imagination. No major characters died, no one retired. If you discard the inconsistencies, the Final Frontier was very much what an episode of the original series would have been like if it had been given a higher budget, lots of extras, and more modern technology. In short, it was fun.</p><p> </p><p>* The god issue. I realize that this is the very thing that people most object to. The people that immediately panned the movie thought it ludicrous that god would live at the center of the galaxy. My belief isn't that they were dealing with a deity of any kind but rather a being made of energy (which they've encountered numerous times in Trek) trying to escape imprisonment by taking over a starship. Yeah, a little far fetched, but still interesting. I don't see how Q is much different. Come to think of it, you could explain away the presence of this being by saying that its a rival of the Q continuum and they imprisoned it inside that barrier. It would make a certain amount of sense.</p><p> </p><p>Of course there was the bad and the ugly about that movie: The inconsistencies regarding the size of the galaxy, the fact that they didn't even use their usual company doing the FX for some reason, The strange looking forheads on the klingons, the fat klingon ambassador, the new Enterprise turning out to be a total lemon, and the destruction of the 20th century satellite which was inexplicably in klingon space, a place that it could never have gotten to, even if it had been flying straight for all those years directly at the klingon empire. Despite these, I still find it much more watchable and fun than Nemesis.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darrin Drader, post: 1460726, member: 7394"] Yeah, Final Frontier was certainly not the best Trek movie. The plot was full of holes, the galaxy was too small, and it just didn't quite stay true to Trek. In fact I have to wonder how Rodenberry even gave the greenlight to that script (I think he was still alive at that time). Despite its numerous obvious shortcomings, there are some things about that movie I do like. * Action/adventure. For me Star Trek has started as a smarter action adventure series. Kirk was the captain, yet he was always taking the enemy to the matt and getting the girl at the end. Of all the Trek movies, I think Final Frontier had the most physical action. This thing was full of brawls, and they were fun ones, with real stunt men rather than the ones that passed for real in the original series. * The Kirk, Bones, Spock moments. It starts with the three old friends camping and it ends the same way. It reaffirms that they are not simply ship mates, but they are family. * Sybok. I liked the guy. True, we never heard of him before that movie, but he was interesting. A full-blooded vulcan and the half-brother of Spock who had turned his back on logic? It was an interesting premise to work with. * The format of the movie. This wasn't a heavy movie by any stretch of the imagination. No major characters died, no one retired. If you discard the inconsistencies, the Final Frontier was very much what an episode of the original series would have been like if it had been given a higher budget, lots of extras, and more modern technology. In short, it was fun. * The god issue. I realize that this is the very thing that people most object to. The people that immediately panned the movie thought it ludicrous that god would live at the center of the galaxy. My belief isn't that they were dealing with a deity of any kind but rather a being made of energy (which they've encountered numerous times in Trek) trying to escape imprisonment by taking over a starship. Yeah, a little far fetched, but still interesting. I don't see how Q is much different. Come to think of it, you could explain away the presence of this being by saying that its a rival of the Q continuum and they imprisoned it inside that barrier. It would make a certain amount of sense. Of course there was the bad and the ugly about that movie: The inconsistencies regarding the size of the galaxy, the fact that they didn't even use their usual company doing the FX for some reason, The strange looking forheads on the klingons, the fat klingon ambassador, the new Enterprise turning out to be a total lemon, and the destruction of the 20th century satellite which was inexplicably in klingon space, a place that it could never have gotten to, even if it had been flying straight for all those years directly at the klingon empire. Despite these, I still find it much more watchable and fun than Nemesis. [/QUOTE]
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