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Message: <blockquote data-quote="adept42" data-source="post: 268113" data-attributes="member: 6142">I can't figure out how they got the spellcraft DCs for some of the Epic level spells. In particular, a lot of the spells with permanent duration seem way off.The simplest example is Epic Repulsion on page 79. Base DC is 14, *5 for being permanent gives is DC 70 and -18 for the mitigating factor gives us 52, the listed DC. So far so good.Now look at Enslave on the same page. Base DC 19 + 11 for stricter compulsion +20 for 1 action casting time is 50. Multiplying that by 5 for the permanent duration gives us 250 and the -50 mitigating factor leaves a massive DC 200; far higher than the DC 80 listed.Okay, maybe we're supposed to just multiply the base DC by 5 (despite the annotation on page 91 that says you should apply the 'permanent' factor last). This gives us a DC of 76 (19*5 +20 +11 -50 = 76). What if we add the mitigating factor before multiplying by 5 (ignoring the fact that this messes up the Epic Repulsion calculation). This gives us (19 + 11 + 20 -50)*5 = 0.In fact, Epic Repulsion is the only spell with the *5 permanent multiplier whose DC seems correct. Are these all misprints or is something else going on?-adept42</blockquote>