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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 6697110" data-attributes="member: 10479"><p>Greek Ages include a Heroic Age after the Bronze Age and Ovid actually ignores the Heroic Age when he rewrites them for the Romans but places his contemporaries in a fifth age after Iron, from my understanding of his writings.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There were a good number of folks who made OGL products for 3.0E who dropped out with 3.5E but seemingly as many or more who jumped in at that stage as the field cleared a bit from one-off producers and those who were over extended. The OGL did not collapse but support/need for 3.0E collapsed and took down some OGL users who couldn't or chose not to make the transition. The online market for ePublishing also really climbed around the same time as 3.5E which allowed for a lot more people to experiment without taking the same risks that those who over extended with 3.0E took. It was no longer a requirement to be a print company to be a successful OGL company, supporting D&D or otherwise.</p><p></p><p>It's also highly notable that Paizo really hit their stride after 3.5E and even rivaled WotC with PF versus 4E, so I think your assessment there is a bit off, to say the least. The argument could be made that the OGL is stronger than ever (counting 3.XE and retroclones of many other editions/games, plus entirely new games) and 3.XE D&D is still going strong in PF, even if being produced with the D&D brand filed off by Paizo. I suppose one might count PF as part of the unmentioned Heroic Age and figure we're not yet in the Iron Age for 3.XE.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 6697110, member: 10479"] Greek Ages include a Heroic Age after the Bronze Age and Ovid actually ignores the Heroic Age when he rewrites them for the Romans but places his contemporaries in a fifth age after Iron, from my understanding of his writings. There were a good number of folks who made OGL products for 3.0E who dropped out with 3.5E but seemingly as many or more who jumped in at that stage as the field cleared a bit from one-off producers and those who were over extended. The OGL did not collapse but support/need for 3.0E collapsed and took down some OGL users who couldn't or chose not to make the transition. The online market for ePublishing also really climbed around the same time as 3.5E which allowed for a lot more people to experiment without taking the same risks that those who over extended with 3.0E took. It was no longer a requirement to be a print company to be a successful OGL company, supporting D&D or otherwise. It's also highly notable that Paizo really hit their stride after 3.5E and even rivaled WotC with PF versus 4E, so I think your assessment there is a bit off, to say the least. The argument could be made that the OGL is stronger than ever (counting 3.XE and retroclones of many other editions/games, plus entirely new games) and 3.XE D&D is still going strong in PF, even if being produced with the D&D brand filed off by Paizo. I suppose one might count PF as part of the unmentioned Heroic Age and figure we're not yet in the Iron Age for 3.XE. [/QUOTE]
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