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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8442180" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Interesting. They know the spell, and can cast it.&nbsp; &nbsp;The rule might be different in Xanathar’s vs the core, but it says “In addition, the character must have proficiency in the <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/compendium/rules/basic-rules/using-ability-scores#Arcana" target="_blank">Arcana</a>skill and must provide any material components required for the casting of the spell. Moreover, the character must have the spell prepared, or it must be among the character’s known spells, in order to scribe a scroll of that spell.” &nbsp;So unless the argument is that ritual casters don’t know the spells they learn, I’m not sure what leads to a no.&nbsp; &nbsp;For using, I suppose one could argue that since you are learning ritual spells that are on a specific class spell list, they count as being on your class spell list? That’s probably the logic I’d use when allowing it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8442180, member: 6704184"] Interesting. They know the spell, and can cast it. The rule might be different in Xanathar’s vs the core, but it says “In addition, the character must have proficiency in the [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/compendium/rules/basic-rules/using-ability-scores#Arcana']Arcana[/URL]skill and must provide any material components required for the casting of the spell. Moreover, the character must have the spell prepared, or [B]it must be among the character’s known spells[/B], in order to scribe a scroll of that spell.” So unless the argument is that ritual casters don’t know the spells they learn, I’m not sure what leads to a no. For using, I suppose one could argue that since you are learning ritual spells that are on a specific class spell list, they count as being on your class spell list? That’s probably the logic I’d use when allowing it. [/QUOTE]

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