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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 5913391" data-attributes="member: 23716">4E did have utility spells as part of the AED power mechanism, by the way.  I don't see rituals as being only for the huge, destroy the world type magic.  One of the things that has always bothered me about D&D magic has been the rather obvious conceit that it was designed around PC adventuring in a Dungeon, and virtually all magic (with some exceptions) can be cast within the space of a combat round.  This can be very verisimilitude breaking, especially when taken out the immediate 'adventure' context and applied to the campaign world at large.  Sure, a wizard who fills up his spell slots with fireball and the like can do a lot of damage, but it has always seemed more world breaking to me if someone uses low level utility magic like Rope Trick outside the Dungeon.  I personally do not care for campaigns where everyone is flying around a lot like Peter Pan, It changes the feel quite a bit.  Sure this is personal preference and I could ban said spell/Items, make only one in a billion people in the setting a spell caster, etc., but rituals allow me to put a bit of a limit on spamming campaign changing magic outside of the adventure context.  They allow the campaign world as a whole to integrate a little better with the magic system.  Mind you I'm not advocating shoving all Utility magic into the Ritual System, something like feather fall would be pretty useless as a ritual, but relatively long lasting or permanent effects that you can see really changing the setting might be up for consideration.  I think one of the problems with the 4E system was that it tried to be a little bit too one-size-fits-all.  There is probably no need to have all rituals be 10 minutes to cast, and working out the cost could be tricky as well, but a somewhat longer casting time will help to balance things out for most PC in the game.</blockquote>

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