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<blockquote data-quote="Halivar" data-source="post: 1164544" data-attributes="member: 9327">Mongol Hordes were effective archers because they could shoot from horseback.&nbsp; This single factor put them head and shoulders above anything else on the steppes.&nbsp;&nbsp;Now, put them up against English longbowmen, and they won't even make it to firing distance.&nbsp; If you'll recall the scene from Braveheart, the English lost because they insisted on the silly outmoded idea that they ought to be sending cavalry in when their longbowmen were doing well enough.&nbsp; It's that same silly idea that lost northern France for Britain.&nbsp; I forget the name of the pivotal battle, but English men-at-arms in fullplate charge right through a French mud field; they all get stuck in the mud, and the French just walk throught he mud field, sticking daggers through their visors.&nbsp; Bad.&nbsp;&nbsp;Part of me has always wanted to rule that longbows penetrate armor.&nbsp; But then, I have to restrain myself from introducing RL stuff into D&amp;D all the stinkin' time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Halivar, post: 1164544, member: 9327"] Mongol Hordes were effective archers because [i]they could shoot from horseback[/i]. This single factor put them head and shoulders above anything else on the steppes. Now, put them up against English longbowmen, and they won't even make it to firing distance. If you'll recall the scene from [i]Braveheart[/i], the English lost because they insisted on the silly outmoded idea that they ought to be sending cavalry in when their longbowmen were doing well enough. It's that same silly idea that lost northern France for Britain. I forget the name of the pivotal battle, but English men-at-arms in fullplate charge right through a French mud field; they all get stuck in the mud, and the French just walk throught he mud field, sticking daggers through their visors. Bad. Part of me has always wanted to rule that longbows penetrate armor. But then, I have to restrain myself from introducing RL stuff into D&D all the stinkin' time. [/QUOTE]

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