Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
[Ro3 5/15] Traits? lol wut?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Ratskinner" data-source="post: 5916105" data-attributes="member: 6688937"><p>I agree with you on the idea of simplicity.</p><p></p><p>I think/fear they are preparing this as a dial, but its a dial for customizability, not actual mechanical simplicity. So if you want a "Basic" human fighter, he will be there....what you didn't know was that he's actually the same as a Human Fighter with a Soldier Background and Defender(?) theme that the "Expert" player might swap for other Backgrounds or Themes. Of course, whatever Background or Theme you have will be composed of Skills, Traits, and Feats, which the "Advanced" player will be able to swap out as he/she desires. So if there's 20 "stats" to write down in Advanced mode, there are 20 stats to write down in Basic mode, just with less choice about what they are.</p><p></p><p>I suppose as a simplifying house rule, one could choose to ignore the background skills and say that the DM can give you +2 (or whatever the skill training bonus is) for roleplaying considerations like writing "Veteran of the Goblin Wars" in the Background box. I'm not sure how that would work for the Themes and Feats portion of the game, though. I'm hopeful that 5e feats are much bigger things than previous editions' feats. Thus, they could be more like "class features" and not so much a pile of fiddly bits. </p><p></p><p>Personally, one of my design goals would be for a 5th level mundane character (no spell lists) to be easily written on one side of a standard notebook sheet. I don't get to pick the design goals, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ratskinner, post: 5916105, member: 6688937"] I agree with you on the idea of simplicity. I think/fear they are preparing this as a dial, but its a dial for customizability, not actual mechanical simplicity. So if you want a "Basic" human fighter, he will be there....what you didn't know was that he's actually the same as a Human Fighter with a Soldier Background and Defender(?) theme that the "Expert" player might swap for other Backgrounds or Themes. Of course, whatever Background or Theme you have will be composed of Skills, Traits, and Feats, which the "Advanced" player will be able to swap out as he/she desires. So if there's 20 "stats" to write down in Advanced mode, there are 20 stats to write down in Basic mode, just with less choice about what they are. I suppose as a simplifying house rule, one could choose to ignore the background skills and say that the DM can give you +2 (or whatever the skill training bonus is) for roleplaying considerations like writing "Veteran of the Goblin Wars" in the Background box. I'm not sure how that would work for the Themes and Feats portion of the game, though. I'm hopeful that 5e feats are much bigger things than previous editions' feats. Thus, they could be more like "class features" and not so much a pile of fiddly bits. Personally, one of my design goals would be for a 5th level mundane character (no spell lists) to be easily written on one side of a standard notebook sheet. I don't get to pick the design goals, though. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
[Ro3 5/15] Traits? lol wut?
Top