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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7015810" data-source="post: 7804729">This is an interesting topic.  Regarding what Rob said:I collected a photo of Arneson's business card a while ago, and Rob is indeed correct:[ATTACH=full]113811[/ATTACH]An interesting question is why someone hired as the Research Director became a shipping clerk.  Clearly this was not his own decision; someone must have assigned him that role.Kask discussed the bushel basket <a href="https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=23223&p=434353&#p434353" target="_blank">here</a>. Kask noted that "I did have to empty the basket that day because Gary’s wife needed it for laundry," which tells us that it was not Arneson who delivered his work in a bushel basket, but probably Gygax, who apparently had put Arneson's work in his wife's laundry basket.In terms of the contents, Kask said that there were "about 50 odd sheets of mostly handwritten material and charts," which seems commensurate with the number of pages of the final product, which actually has less than 50 pages of text--on half-sized pages (5.25" x 8.5")-- once the artwork is subtracted out.  So it appears that Arneson did deliver enough material to produce a supplement-sized booklet.Now, in terms of whether or not what Arneson submitted was "fit for publication," that is hard to say at this point.  Kask noted that it was "mostly handwritten," but that shouldn't have detracted from the content itself; this was the 70's, and an author submitting something in handwriting was not unheard-of.  Kask said that he "threw most of the crap away, determined to start over and do it my way," and in an article <a href="https://grognardia.blogspot.com/2008/09/interview-tim-kask-part-i.html" target="_blank">here</a>, Kask said that "what came out was about 60% my work, 30% Dave Arneson’s and the remainder came from Gary and Rob Kuntz." So it appears that Kask was at least somewhat interested in a design role at the time, rather than just an editing role.  Kask also talked about "what has been perceived as a personal animus that I have for Dave Arneson" <a href="https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=23223&p=432577&#p432577" target="_blank">here</a>.  Given that context, its hard to be sure that what Arneson submitted truly was "crap."</blockquote>

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