Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Rob Kuntz Recounts The Origins Of D&D
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 7804747" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>I'm not sure that it matters too much who delivered the basket. My understanding is that before Tim Kask received the materials, it had gone to Brian Blume for editing first. Why it then went to Kask is uncertain (insofar as I'm aware), but given that Kask was, at that time, a new hire (with Supplement II being <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kask#In_the_games_industry" target="_blank">his very first assignment</a>), my guess is that Blume was pawning a difficult/cumbersome job off on the new guy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Leaving aside questions of just how much material was written on each sheet, the issue isn't whether or not Arneson was able to write enough material (the first two printings of <em>First Fantasy Campaign</em> are both over ninety pages, and the third printing is over sixty), but rather is with regard to how usable it was. If nobody could understand what was written, then it wasn't worth much. Again, <em>First Fantasy Campaign</em> is <a href="https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/40495/roleplaying-games/reactions-to-odd-the-arnesonian-dungeon" target="_blank">illustrative in this regard</a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The part about what percentage of the work came from who can also be found on the <a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17172/ODD-Supplement-II-Blackmoor-0e" target="_blank">DM's Guild page</a> for Supplement II that I linked to previously. But I don't think that conveys that "Kask was at least somewhat interested in a design role at the time." As noted, he had just started at TSR and was essentially told to take Arneson's notes and make them fit to publish. The end result was that he needed to personally rewrite more than half of what was eventually put out the door. That wasn't so much an interest in design (particularly since he later went on to become the editor of <em>The Strategic Review</em>, <em>Supplement III: Eldritch Wizardry</em>, <em>Supplement IV: Gods, Demi-gods & Heroes</em>, <em>Swords and Spells</em>, and the first thirty-three issues of <em>The Dragon</em>) as it was him being told "get this done."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 7804747, member: 8461"] I'm not sure that it matters too much who delivered the basket. My understanding is that before Tim Kask received the materials, it had gone to Brian Blume for editing first. Why it then went to Kask is uncertain (insofar as I'm aware), but given that Kask was, at that time, a new hire (with Supplement II being [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kask#In_the_games_industry']his very first assignment[/URL]), my guess is that Blume was pawning a difficult/cumbersome job off on the new guy. Leaving aside questions of just how much material was written on each sheet, the issue isn't whether or not Arneson was able to write enough material (the first two printings of [I]First Fantasy Campaign[/I] are both over ninety pages, and the third printing is over sixty), but rather is with regard to how usable it was. If nobody could understand what was written, then it wasn't worth much. Again, [I]First Fantasy Campaign[/I] is [URL='https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/40495/roleplaying-games/reactions-to-odd-the-arnesonian-dungeon']illustrative in this regard[/URL]. The part about what percentage of the work came from who can also be found on the [URL='https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17172/ODD-Supplement-II-Blackmoor-0e']DM's Guild page[/URL] for Supplement II that I linked to previously. But I don't think that conveys that "Kask was at least somewhat interested in a design role at the time." As noted, he had just started at TSR and was essentially told to take Arneson's notes and make them fit to publish. The end result was that he needed to personally rewrite more than half of what was eventually put out the door. That wasn't so much an interest in design (particularly since he later went on to become the editor of [I]The Strategic Review[/I], [I]Supplement III: Eldritch Wizardry[/I], [I]Supplement IV: Gods, Demi-gods & Heroes[/I], [I]Swords and Spells[/I], and the first thirty-three issues of [I]The Dragon[/I]) as it was him being told "get this done." [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Rob Kuntz Recounts The Origins Of D&D
Top