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<blockquote data-quote="Rob Kuntz" data-source="post: 7805012" data-attributes="member: 7015759"><p>You know this whole Gary vs. Dave thing has to end. Unfortunately some truths have to come out to end it, and some people just don't want to hear them. There is no need to have lowballed Arneson in the past and if things were equal no need to refute the inspection of his history. Stand it its way if one does not wish at this point to determine the truth. I see it as a balance, that is all, period. Ultimately It is something that will not and should not be settled on an internet board. I am just recalling relatively minor pieces (from my view) of what I have seen, heard, experienced as well the impressions I got. I was on the phone today with a querist, a rather important one in fact in the scope of things, and was asked a question about Gary. I said right up front that my answer was my impression, my opinion on that <strong>singular subject</strong> and qualified it for knowing Gary's person, having been almost adopted by the family and knowing his ways as his student. In all it is still my impression but it is what I believe to have substance. For those who weren't there during my moments, hey, more power to them for having less impressions but, instead, full knowledge about them!</p><p></p><p>As Robilar, yes, I rolled him on Gary's kitchen table and can even tell you where the name derives from, but that is not documented and people might disagree with that memory... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> The story you recall, in part, involves my play-test of ToH. Even Gary got wrong the number of orcs I took with me--I took 5. We got to the entry tunnel and I stopped, not liking the look of things. So I ordered an orc forward into it as a scout. Gary rolled the dice and the orc refused my command to go forward. I drew my sword and killed it on the spot. Then I looked at another orc, sword still drawn, and ordered it forward and it (surprise, surprise) complied immediately. This was repeated until all four orcs ere killed by the pit traps (I chose badly for all four). I then entered by myself. BTW--as this adventure occurred so long ago I am sure mysterious people will challenge my recollection of it... Funny how selective agreeing works... Other than that I never abused my henchmen or MAA, etc.with such tactics, but due to Gary's relish in wanting me to come over and playtest his new creation (I was the co-DM of GH then and we always traded playtesting new levels, his or mine) I was on guard during such times and doubly cautious...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rob Kuntz, post: 7805012, member: 7015759"] You know this whole Gary vs. Dave thing has to end. Unfortunately some truths have to come out to end it, and some people just don't want to hear them. There is no need to have lowballed Arneson in the past and if things were equal no need to refute the inspection of his history. Stand it its way if one does not wish at this point to determine the truth. I see it as a balance, that is all, period. Ultimately It is something that will not and should not be settled on an internet board. I am just recalling relatively minor pieces (from my view) of what I have seen, heard, experienced as well the impressions I got. I was on the phone today with a querist, a rather important one in fact in the scope of things, and was asked a question about Gary. I said right up front that my answer was my impression, my opinion on that [B]singular subject[/B] and qualified it for knowing Gary's person, having been almost adopted by the family and knowing his ways as his student. In all it is still my impression but it is what I believe to have substance. For those who weren't there during my moments, hey, more power to them for having less impressions but, instead, full knowledge about them! As Robilar, yes, I rolled him on Gary's kitchen table and can even tell you where the name derives from, but that is not documented and people might disagree with that memory... ;) The story you recall, in part, involves my play-test of ToH. Even Gary got wrong the number of orcs I took with me--I took 5. We got to the entry tunnel and I stopped, not liking the look of things. So I ordered an orc forward into it as a scout. Gary rolled the dice and the orc refused my command to go forward. I drew my sword and killed it on the spot. Then I looked at another orc, sword still drawn, and ordered it forward and it (surprise, surprise) complied immediately. This was repeated until all four orcs ere killed by the pit traps (I chose badly for all four). I then entered by myself. BTW--as this adventure occurred so long ago I am sure mysterious people will challenge my recollection of it... Funny how selective agreeing works... Other than that I never abused my henchmen or MAA, etc.with such tactics, but due to Gary's relish in wanting me to come over and playtest his new creation (I was the co-DM of GH then and we always traded playtesting new levels, his or mine) I was on guard during such times and doubly cautious... [/QUOTE]
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