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<blockquote data-quote="Crust" data-source="post: 3659624" data-attributes="member: 22330"><p>I agree with you wholeheartedly. I've really noticed how different books written exclusive of one another can really lead to a build that might not have been intended by individual designers. I deal with this every Sunday. My players have taken feats from <em>Complete Warrior</em>, <em>Complete Adventurer</em>, <em>Complete Scoundrel</em>, etc., and have really made some tough cookies.</p><p></p><p>Take the ranger/fighter. He uses a two-handed weapon, favored power attack (Com War), leap attack (Com Adv), and combat brute (Com War) to get x4 on his power attack modifier, and it's spelled doom for BBEGs on more than one occasion. In a perfect world, the designers of <em>Complete Adventurer </em> might have asked, "Um, should we allow leap attack to increase the power attack modifier again? I mean, remember that in <em>Complete Warrior</em> PCs can increase their power attack modifiers using favored power attack and/or combat brute. Things could get out of hand if a PC takes all three and mops the floor with every encounter tailored for his character level."</p><p></p><p>I don't ban anything, simply because I want my players to be able to pick what they want and be happy (and because it's a cheap move on my part), but it is a bit frustrating when players know their builds can't be touched... and when those power-built PCs get hurt, it gets even more annoying when players whine, assuming their PCs should never get hurt, let alone touched.</p><p></p><p>As far as Robilar's Gambit, I suggested it to the half-orc fighter, but he didn't seem interested. Maybe I'll point him to this thread... Then maybe he'll stop tripping everything with his spiked chains, combat reflexes, and improved trip. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crust, post: 3659624, member: 22330"] I agree with you wholeheartedly. I've really noticed how different books written exclusive of one another can really lead to a build that might not have been intended by individual designers. I deal with this every Sunday. My players have taken feats from [I]Complete Warrior[/I], [I]Complete Adventurer[/I], [I]Complete Scoundrel[/I], etc., and have really made some tough cookies. Take the ranger/fighter. He uses a two-handed weapon, favored power attack (Com War), leap attack (Com Adv), and combat brute (Com War) to get x4 on his power attack modifier, and it's spelled doom for BBEGs on more than one occasion. In a perfect world, the designers of [I]Complete Adventurer [/I] might have asked, "Um, should we allow leap attack to increase the power attack modifier again? I mean, remember that in [I]Complete Warrior[/I] PCs can increase their power attack modifiers using favored power attack and/or combat brute. Things could get out of hand if a PC takes all three and mops the floor with every encounter tailored for his character level." I don't ban anything, simply because I want my players to be able to pick what they want and be happy (and because it's a cheap move on my part), but it is a bit frustrating when players know their builds can't be touched... and when those power-built PCs get hurt, it gets even more annoying when players whine, assuming their PCs should never get hurt, let alone touched. As far as Robilar's Gambit, I suggested it to the half-orc fighter, but he didn't seem interested. Maybe I'll point him to this thread... Then maybe he'll stop tripping everything with his spiked chains, combat reflexes, and improved trip. ;) [/QUOTE]
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