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Message: <blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 2885291" data-attributes="member: 6777">I have to concur that these are brilliant; I and the other battlemat swag guy in our group jumped on these things. Personally, they obviated my need for FD's BattleBox; that was a product that sounded great to me in concept, but in execution ended up being useless to me. The counters were the only things I was at all interested in keeping.As soon as BC Products releases hex'ed Tact-Tiles, I'm gonna be all over them as well.We played the old Circus Imperium hover-chariot racing game by FASA this past weekend instead of our regular D&D game. Honestly, I had more fun doing this than I have playing any of my regular RPGs lately. It took minimal time to learn, and we got in two full games befre our typical quitting time. And I am very much not a war/board-gamer.The whole time, I was sitting there trying to figure out why it was that my D&D and HERO sessions felt less enjoyable in comparison. Why the 20-minute:4-hour fun ratio with them and 4-hour:4-hour ratio with Circus Impreium?In contrast, I ran the indie FRPG Burning Wheel for my regular HERO group the night before. As much as I was hoping that it would blow away my players, they seemed non-plussed. BW is phenomenal, IMO, but complicated enough that it could conceivably take a few sessions to get things running smoothly.Would my group be willing to make that investment? It didn't seem so. They already know HERO back-to-front. Even the players who were excited about trying something new obviously had a lot of inertia to overcome.So, I've got this awesome RPG that I will probably only ever get to play at GenCon or when I run events at Gameday... and it's ony one of many RPGs I own that are in the same boat. This sort of ticks me off, but what can I do? RPGs, even mechanically simple ones, do require quite a bit of time and effort to master, and run smoothest once that mastery has been achieved. Where is the incentive for my players to start from scratch all the time?</blockquote>

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