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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5202969" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>You could always multiclass into something else and pick up Trapfinding, also. Right now I'm playing a Changeling Rogue/Factotum, so the latter class gave me back trapfinding anyway.</p><p></p><p>Way to fly: The boots in the DMG are cheap enough, and you can use wands and scrolls.</p><p></p><p>Silver Dragon Bloodline: Why? "Story purposes" is nice and all, but that's 3 levels devoted to something that really doesn't help your rogue abilities at all. There's less expensive draconic heritage templates and such out there.</p><p></p><p>Wand suggestions:</p><p>Acid Splash (no SR, touch attach, acid damage, and cheap as a cantrip)</p><p>Ray of Frost (as above, but with SR allowed and 1.5x damage to fire creatures)</p><p>Grease (balancing = flatfooted; lasts round/level, so don't get it at CL 1)</p><p>Persistent Blade [SpC] (Aside from SR, an inescapable round/level debuff to leave target always flanked)</p><p>Greater Invisibility (I'd say it's worth the cost; then again, losts of stuff has True Seeing by now)</p><p>Heroics [SpC] (Make a list of useful Fighter feats you qualify for, including ToB maneuvers, use as needed)</p><p></p><p>If the DM unwisely follows Rules Compendium (swift action spells now take a swift to activate as a wand, and so forth):</p><p>Golem Strike [SpC]</p><p>Gravestrike [SpC]</p><p>Vinestrike [SpC]</p><p>Wraithstrike [SpC] (all attacks are touch attacks for 1 round; stupidly broken)</p><p>Shock and Awe [SpC] (Immedite action in surprise round to give -10 to foes' init rolls)</p><p>Nerveskitter [SpC] (Immediate action for +5 on your Init roll...)</p><p>Critical Strike [SpC] (Swift for +1d6 SA and +4 to confirm crits in melee for 1 round)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5202969, member: 35909"] You could always multiclass into something else and pick up Trapfinding, also. Right now I'm playing a Changeling Rogue/Factotum, so the latter class gave me back trapfinding anyway. Way to fly: The boots in the DMG are cheap enough, and you can use wands and scrolls. Silver Dragon Bloodline: Why? "Story purposes" is nice and all, but that's 3 levels devoted to something that really doesn't help your rogue abilities at all. There's less expensive draconic heritage templates and such out there. Wand suggestions: Acid Splash (no SR, touch attach, acid damage, and cheap as a cantrip) Ray of Frost (as above, but with SR allowed and 1.5x damage to fire creatures) Grease (balancing = flatfooted; lasts round/level, so don't get it at CL 1) Persistent Blade [SpC] (Aside from SR, an inescapable round/level debuff to leave target always flanked) Greater Invisibility (I'd say it's worth the cost; then again, losts of stuff has True Seeing by now) Heroics [SpC] (Make a list of useful Fighter feats you qualify for, including ToB maneuvers, use as needed) If the DM unwisely follows Rules Compendium (swift action spells now take a swift to activate as a wand, and so forth): Golem Strike [SpC] Gravestrike [SpC] Vinestrike [SpC] Wraithstrike [SpC] (all attacks are touch attacks for 1 round; stupidly broken) Shock and Awe [SpC] (Immedite action in surprise round to give -10 to foes' init rolls) Nerveskitter [SpC] (Immediate action for +5 on your Init roll...) Critical Strike [SpC] (Swift for +1d6 SA and +4 to confirm crits in melee for 1 round) [/QUOTE]
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