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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jaer" data-source="post: 4073458" data-attributes="member: 57861">Really?  At which point did he inspire confidence as a leader?  His original crew mutanied.  His second crew left him for dead (oh yeah, they came back, but they didn't help save him) and then left him on the dock with Mr. Gibs.  The only reason people every did anything for him was because they needed something from him or could get something out of it for themelves (okay, so Elizabeth and Will save him at then end of the first movie with little more than loyalty for him cause he did manage to help them despite doing it for his own reasons; only time) - the monkey was the only one who actually wanted to save him for the purpose of saving him from Davy Jone's locker.He double talked everything...when did anyone ever actually do anything he planned for them to?  Barbosa didn't listen to his plan...Norington didn't listen to his plan...Elizabeth never listen to his plans.  Things turned out the way he planned, but not beause he commanded it or even because he was such a great manipulator as to trick people into doing what he wants.The real problem that always results from trying to put a character into a D&D class is that no one seems to agree what aspects align with what class.  I agree that Jack was charismatic, but I would have to say he was poor leader at best, and definitly not an inspiring one.  Sure they fired the cannons when he said to, but they also did it when Will or Elizabath said to as well...being the one in charge does not a Warlock make in my opinion.</blockquote>

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