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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magic Rub" data-source="post: 209084" data-attributes="member: 3619">Barbarian Rage (as dissected by Magic Rub): Sounds like they don't have much control. I'm not much for planning exacting hits when in a blood frenzy, more smashing as hard & often as I can. Wow "reckless"! I think that might mean that he wouldn't base his attacks around exacting hits like a sneak attack. The bonus to the will saves are because he/she is enraged, charged with adrenalin. This makes him/her less susceptible to falling unconscious due to a hit, or falling victim to a spell (probably because he isn't listening). This does not infer that a barbarian has a higher wisdom score, & there by becoming more tactical. It's a moral bonus, he/she becomes more fearless. Again this illustrates the "insane rage" aspect of the class. A Barbarian has a chance of dropping dead (-10 & beyond) when he/she comes out of the rage. Kinda' reminds me of the Hulk (the animalistic mentality Hulk), I don't think I've ever seen the Hulk place a tactical specific vital organ threatening hit.(the afore described Hulk) The general idea again is "HULK SMASH", not "Hulk smash better by walking behind bad guy, then poking bad guy in lung for more damage potential"This would infer that he is a head to head fighter, not one for sneaking behind and executing a placed hit on a foe. The fact that he can't use Expertise should tell you something about his state of mind.I am (obviously) of the opinion that the Rage of the barbarian class over rides the descriptor of the rouges sneak attack. If the Rage was so controlled & tactically capable then it would be a feat that any fighter could take, as opposed to the basis for an entire class as it is. As much as it would be cool to milk that extra damage out of the system by doing this, it is inconsistent & unpalatable from a character / gameplay prospective. I wouldn't do it as a player, nor would I allow it in my campaign. But that's just me.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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