Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8252394" data-attributes="member: 6704184">A rather cynical and uncharitable read of my posts. In short, no.&nbsp; &nbsp; Magical Secrets serves only to make the class more of a Jack of all trades. I propose a more focused spell list that allows cursing of enemies in multiple ways from low level, and dropping spells that don’t lean into the Bard’s identity. There is no contradiction there.&nbsp; Nor is there any hint of any statement in my entire post that suggests the bard getting “all the features” of any of its subclasses. &nbsp;as for Jack of all trades, I’m not sure how you missed that my intention is to focus the Bard, rather than having it just have basically all the skills. Expertise is more what makes the bard skillful, anywayThat isn’t a helpful reply. The rogue is built to be a murder machine, this thread exists to discuss whether that is good, and how to build a rogue that isn’t that. Power is pretty irrelevant, though, to whether the class is accomplishing its intended fiction to a satisfying degree.Disagree strongly. If you did nothing else but replace its Spellcasting with half casting, it would badly need a boost in turn. Okay. I can’t speak for others, but my attachment to or care for tradition is literally nonexistent. Fair enough. I find it totally sensible that a Bard can cast the powerful spells it is possible for a mortal to cast. I just don’t think they should be doing a lot of it. Only way to do both is a custom Spellcasting chart with fewer slots, or just something like the warlocks mystic arcanum, but allow them to learn all the rituals they want. Totally fair. I am just getting started.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8252394, member: 6704184"] A rather cynical and uncharitable read of my posts. In short, no. Magical Secrets serves only to make the class more of a Jack of all trades. I propose a more focused spell list that allows cursing of enemies in multiple ways from low level, and dropping spells that don’t lean into the Bard’s identity. There is no contradiction there. Nor is there any hint of any statement in my entire post that suggests the bard getting “all the features” of any of its subclasses. as for Jack of all trades, I’m not sure how you missed that my intention is to focus the Bard, rather than having it just have basically all the skills. Expertise is more what makes the bard skillful, anyway That isn’t a helpful reply. The rogue is built to be a murder machine, this thread exists to discuss whether that is good, and how to build a rogue that isn’t that. Power is pretty irrelevant, though, to whether the class is accomplishing its intended fiction to a satisfying degree. Disagree strongly. If you did nothing else but replace its Spellcasting with half casting, it would badly need a boost in turn. Okay. I can’t speak for others, but my attachment to or care for tradition is literally nonexistent. Fair enough. I find it totally sensible that a Bard can cast the powerful spells it is possible for a mortal to cast. I just don’t think they should be doing a lot of it. Only way to do both is a custom Spellcasting chart with fewer slots, or just something like the warlocks mystic arcanum, but allow them to learn all the rituals they want. Totally fair. I am just getting started. [/QUOTE]

Verification