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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8254136" data-attributes="member: 6704184">here are my thoughts on the bard so far;Bard<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellcasting changes, no magical secrets, mystic arcanum style access to 6+ level spells, more limited/focused spell list. I'm open to fewer spell slots of levels 3-5 as well, basically a weak full caster. <ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Add Guidance, Druidcraft, Hex, Call Lightning, Identify, and some of the summon spells, ditch lightning bolt and a few others</li>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lose jack of All trades, gain ability to spend dice to add to an Int or Charisma ability check.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bardic Inspiration Dice need new name (Story and Song), more dice, group buffs and debuffs, single target curses, and eventually a mechanic to “smite” an ally’s attack.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keeper of Knowledge – similar to keen mind, plus ability to make knowledge checks to Help another as part of another action 1/turn</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">A Turn The Crowd ability, perhaps usable to gain an audience or safe passage out of trouble, signifying that a Bard is someone people listen to. Maybe tied to the dice pool mechanic.</li>
</ul>Basically the idea is that you lose a decent chunk of spellcasting, but don't slow down your spellcasting, and in exchange you gain a bigger pool of dice that starts out refreshing on a short rest, and that you can use to do bigger stuff.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8254136, member: 6704184"] here are my thoughts on the bard so far; [B]Bard[/B] [LIST] [*]Spellcasting changes, no magical secrets, mystic arcanum style access to 6+ level spells, more limited/focused spell list. I'm open to fewer spell slots of levels 3-5 as well, basically a weak full caster. [LIST] [*]Add Guidance, Druidcraft, Hex, Call Lightning, Identify, and some of the summon spells, ditch lightning bolt and a few others [/LIST] [*]Lose jack of All trades, gain ability to spend dice to add to an Int or Charisma ability check. [*]Bardic Inspiration Dice need new name (Story and Song), more dice, group buffs and debuffs, single target curses, and eventually a mechanic to “smite” an ally’s attack. [*]Keeper of Knowledge – similar to keen mind, plus ability to make knowledge checks to Help another as part of another action 1/turn [*]A Turn The Crowd ability, perhaps usable to gain an audience or safe passage out of trouble, signifying that a Bard is someone people listen to. Maybe tied to the dice pool mechanic. [/LIST] Basically the idea is that you lose a decent chunk of spellcasting, but don't slow down your spellcasting, and in exchange you gain a bigger pool of dice that starts out refreshing on a short rest, and that you can use to do bigger stuff. [/QUOTE]

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