Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
rogue-bladesinger?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8173431" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>Have you played a bladesinger? Single class Bladesingers are one of the best if not the best "tank" in the game in terms of surviving in melee. They almost never get hit so low hit points are not relevant in melee (and at higher levels they can use spell slots to take no damage from rare attacks that do hit). A single-class bladesinger will outlast any character except a Barbarian in straight up melee on the front line, they will easily outlast most Rangers, Fighters and Paladins. Those classes have a little less than twice as many hit points but they get hit about 4 times as often. Barbarians get hit more too but being getting resistance to damage evens it up so Barbarians effectively have about four times as many hit points.</p><p></p><p>To be clear, by outlast I mean stay alive. What they won't do is much damage in melee so they can't win a melee fight on their own, but they will survive as well as anyone. They are not better all around front line melee characters than the martial classes I mentioned, but they are better at defense and staying alive in melee than they are.</p><p></p><p>I have played twice with a single class bladesinger and against most foes she is the character in the party that moves to block the enemy and never leaves melee range and keeps the enemy off the rear area characters (to be clear she does not use weapon attacks every round, she uses spells but from the front). One of these characters got hit twice in melee total between level 2 and level 8. She went multiple levels in a row without having anyone hit her at all even though she was in the thick of it. Now she went down several times from other stuff (spells mostly), but not from melee.</p><p></p><p>Against really tough enemies that can 1-shot you go with Blur and mirror image and the chance of a critical hit on you is 1 in 1600 while all your images are up. Like I said, you are not doing a lot of damage as a bladesinger though, unless you are hitting them with hard spells. A side benifit is being at the front also makes AOE spells, especially cone spells a lot easier to cast without party members in the way.</p><p></p><p>Considering the rest of the party my plan is not to always disengage, that is why I am looking at a multiclass. That said booming blade plus disengage looks very attractive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8173431, member: 6855259"] Have you played a bladesinger? Single class Bladesingers are one of the best if not the best "tank" in the game in terms of surviving in melee. They almost never get hit so low hit points are not relevant in melee (and at higher levels they can use spell slots to take no damage from rare attacks that do hit). A single-class bladesinger will outlast any character except a Barbarian in straight up melee on the front line, they will easily outlast most Rangers, Fighters and Paladins. Those classes have a little less than twice as many hit points but they get hit about 4 times as often. Barbarians get hit more too but being getting resistance to damage evens it up so Barbarians effectively have about four times as many hit points. To be clear, by outlast I mean stay alive. What they won't do is much damage in melee so they can't win a melee fight on their own, but they will survive as well as anyone. They are not better all around front line melee characters than the martial classes I mentioned, but they are better at defense and staying alive in melee than they are. I have played twice with a single class bladesinger and against most foes she is the character in the party that moves to block the enemy and never leaves melee range and keeps the enemy off the rear area characters (to be clear she does not use weapon attacks every round, she uses spells but from the front). One of these characters got hit twice in melee total between level 2 and level 8. She went multiple levels in a row without having anyone hit her at all even though she was in the thick of it. Now she went down several times from other stuff (spells mostly), but not from melee. Against really tough enemies that can 1-shot you go with Blur and mirror image and the chance of a critical hit on you is 1 in 1600 while all your images are up. Like I said, you are not doing a lot of damage as a bladesinger though, unless you are hitting them with hard spells. A side benifit is being at the front also makes AOE spells, especially cone spells a lot easier to cast without party members in the way. Considering the rest of the party my plan is not to always disengage, that is why I am looking at a multiclass. That said booming blade plus disengage looks very attractive. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
rogue-bladesinger?
Top